AUD Study Group – October/November 2012 - Page 20

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  • #385042
    TXNYC
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    @Soon2BCPA127

    BV=Book Value

    FAR - 79 (5/2011) expires 11/30/2012
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    AUD - 69,70,70,86(10/2012) Finally got the AUD credit before FAR expires.

    #385043
    TXNYC
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    @Soon2BCPA127

    Can you give me an example question related to “the point estimated error or project error”?

    FAR - 79 (5/2011) expires 11/30/2012
    BEC - 81 (7/2011)
    REG - 76 (8/2011)
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    #385044
    silliepanda
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    @ Nam don't be so nervous!!!!! I am JUST starting 🙁 I wanna kick and scream and throw a temper tantrum. I DON'T WANNA DO THIS!!!!!

    Ok … better …. I do want to do this AND GET IT OVER WITH. (breath in, breath out) OK…Time to start!!

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    #385045
    Soon2BCPA127
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    @TXNYC – below is the problem i was referring to. I cannot understand the difference between those three questions and how to reach differentiate and remember the method of coming up with an answer.

    In auditing receivables, Schmidt, CPA, will use statistical sampling to evaluate whether there was proper authorization for shipping the goods and to determine whether the resulting receivables are fairly stated. Schmidt has determined the following.

    Accounts receivable balance = $500,000

    Number of customer balances included = 212

    Parameters for test of controls

    Risk of assessing control risk too low = 5%

    Tolerable deviation rate = 6%

    Expected deviation rate = 2%

    Allowance for sampling risk 3%

    Sample size = 75 customer invoices

    Audit procedure: inspect invoice for proper authorization (credit check, available goods, etc.)

    Parameters for substantive tests

    Acceptable level of risk = 5%

    Assessed level of inherent and control risk: Low

    Tolerable misstatement = $2,000

    Sample size = 50 (outstanding) customer invoices

    Audit procedure: Send confirmations for each invoice

    Each question below is independent of the others. For each question, double-click on the shaded cells and select your answer from the list provided.

    1. In evaluating the confirmations associated with each invoice, Schmidt discovers that there is an avg. overstatement error of $10 per account. What will be the projected error in the population?

    2. In evaluating the confirmations associated with each invoice, Schmidt discovers that there is an avg overstatement error of 1% per account. what will Schmidt's point estimate be for the true population value?

    3. Schmidt is considering using a PPS sampling plan with a sampling interval of $3000. After sending confirmations, Schmidt discovers that an account balance of $1500 is overstated by $150 and an account balance of $4000 is overstated by $400. Based on these two errors only, what will be the total projected error in accounts receivable?

    #385046
    TXNYC
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    @Soon2BCPA127

    For 1 & 2, I usually try to find the Projected misstatement first.

    1, there is an avg. overstatement error of $10 per account. Projected misstatement should be $10 * 212(total account)

    They want to find Projected Error. This should be the answer they want.

    2, 1% overstatement. In my opinion, 100(Right)+1(Error)=101(Total)

    Therefore, Projectment misstatement should be equal to Total amount/101.

    They want the “estimate”. I rechecked my last post. I think my last post should be changed.

    Point estimate isn't Projected Misstatement.

    Point estimate= Sample Error+Recorded Balance

    Sample Error=overstated. the value should be negative.

    Therefore point estimate= -total amount/101+total amount=total amount*100/101

    3. For PPS, you can remember that if account balance > interval, use the account error.

    If account balance <= interval, use the rate which is account error*interval /account balance

    FAR - 79 (5/2011) expires 11/30/2012
    BEC - 81 (7/2011)
    REG - 76 (8/2011)
    AUD - 69,70,70,86(10/2012) Finally got the AUD credit before FAR expires.

    #385047
    jonlinsner
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    I will be taking trh e Auding exam after Thanksgiving.

    Is there anyone who needs a study partner out there?

    I am in New York so please let me know.

    Thanks and good luck everyone.

    #385048
    Soon2BCPA127
    Member

    I score in high 80s ad 90s in Progress Tests utilizing Becker but Practice Final exam i get scores in 50-70s :(. It seems like becker material comes off easier than the actual exam. I'm really panicking now!

    #385049
    Soon2BCPA127
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    @TXNYC – thank you for the examples and explanation. I understood the 1st one last two I'll be practicing more!

    #385050
    Soon2BCPA127
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    Can some share their insight on why the answer is 2 and not 1.

    Which of the following is least likely to affect an auditor's judgements about materiality?

    1. the nature of an item, such as an illegal but very small payment.

    2. The client's evaluation of materiality

    3. The dollar amount of key figures in the previous year's financial statements

    4 consideration of what a reasonable person would think

    #385051
    sbarkerACPA
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    @soon2beacpa127 The client evaluation of materiality does not matter so it is least likely to influence auditor's determination. Presence of any illegal activity will likely affect auditor's judgement about the materiality

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    #385052
    sbarkerACPA
    Participant

    I have auditing in the morning, not really nervous more of anxious. I am trying to be confident in my prep/review but for some reason I am not. I have worked tons of MCQs, read, re-read!!! I think I am going to call it a night. I will wake up in the morning and work on some MCQ just to get myself in test taking mode…

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    AUD: 77
    REG: 71; 80
    FAR: 78
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    #385053

    @Soon2BCPA – the existence of an illegal act though immaterial may possibly indicate other illegal acts that have yet to be discovered, thus the auditor needs to re-assess (lower) the materiality level (amount). By lowering the materiality level, the auditor has a higher likelihood of catching other illegal acts. Another reason, the existence of illegal acts may put management's integrity at question (depending who did it), in response, the auditor may want to reassess the control risk.

    Does anyone know whether the authoritative literature feature is available in the MCQ exam testlet? just curious if I can do a search during MCQ.

    BEC - 86 (8/31/12)
    AUD - 97 (11/18/12)
    REG - 83 (5/12/13)
    FAR - 91 (12/2/13)
    Done!!!

    #385054
    Anonymous
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    Soon2BCPA, 2 is not the answer because it is the AUDITOR who assesses materiality, not the client. The question is asking which of the choices LEAST likely affects the auditor's judgment about materiality. The client's judgment about materiality is not taken into consideration.

    Geshanyc, there is no AL for the MC questions.

    #385055
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Okay, so I am taking AUD on Nov 16th. I am currently using Becker and am on A4. But good grief I am unable to process/retain this chapter for some reason. I listened to the lecture, skimmed the book, and am doing the mcq's but they don't make sense to me. I feel like I am just not grasping this chapter. For all the prievous chapters I did really well and scored over 90% in the mcq's. I also recently bought the ninja notes that I have left for final review.

    My question is should I move on to chapter 5 and 6 and then come back to this chapter by spending more time during the review OR should I keep reading it till it makes sense. Somebody please suggest what I should do? 🙁

    #385056
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @ desicpa17:

    I'd suggest you to move on to the other chapters, so that you can get equal exposure to everything. During your review stage, focus on your weaker areas. Hope that helps with your dilemma!

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