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February 6, 2014 at 9:59 pm #183479
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April 23, 2014 at 11:22 pm #568454
scarletknight91MemberIs there ever an instance where you don't need an EOM to explain something that is justifiably explained in the F/S? For instance, if there's a justifiable change in Acct Principle (material GAAP departure that is justifiable) you would need an EOM. In addition, a going concern issue that is adequately disclosed needs an EOM. Considering that, are there instances where you dont need an EOM? Hopefully what I'm asking if making sense..
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April 23, 2014 at 11:23 pm #568455
scarletknight91Memberdjstoler, thanks from smelly NJ (its really not all smelly though haha)
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April 24, 2014 at 11:50 am #568456
scarletknight91Member24 hours away and now i feel like gary busey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHoNQrxG_8M
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April 24, 2014 at 1:43 pm #568457
PriscillaParticipantHi everyone!
Can someone give me some tips on how to study ratio analysis/procedures?
I memorized the formulas already and while practicing the sim's on ratio analysis (increase/decrease) can't seem to retain any info studied already….. I'm getting a bit frustrated honestly…. This is my 3rd attempt for this test and I want to be prepared for those questions……. Please any help/tips would be appreciated.
Thank you in advance!
Priscilla
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FAR - August 2015April 24, 2014 at 1:56 pm #568458
AnonymousInactiveCan anyone give me some insight into which becker chapters are the hardest? I'm just starting A2 today.
April 24, 2014 at 2:10 pm #568459
PriscillaParticipant@ CPAOneDayHopefullay
Chapter 3 and 4.
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FAR - August 2015April 24, 2014 at 2:58 pm #568460
PandaramaParticipant@ Priscilla – I have a hard time remembering how to do the ratios too. One of my ways of remembering is instead of remembering the specific ratio, I think about the accounts related to the end ratio.
For example:
Inventory Turnover… I know that I'm dividing something by the average inventory, but I can never remember what. So I start thinking about the accounts that are associated with inventory… I immediately think of cost of goods sold (COGS) and then realize I need to divide COGS by the average inventory.
I hope this helps!
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April 24, 2014 at 4:44 pm #568461
PriscillaParticipant@ Latwell or anyone else…
Thanks! it does…. I just need to practice more sim's on that topic…. How do you perform analytics on ratios? for example when you have to pick a rationale from management as to change in ratio percentage from year 1 to year 2?
I have the hardest time choosing the correct one and whether ratio increase/decrease…..
There's also like 20 ratios…. wish we only had to study a few…..lol
Thanks again!
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FAR - August 2015April 24, 2014 at 5:57 pm #568462
scarletknight91MemberPriscilla, the rate of change is what matters most.
ill give an example to illustrate. lets say management added fraudulent sales to their year end totals. well that means a debit to AR of lets say 600 and a credit to Sales of 600. now fraudulent sales means that no one is actually selling anything to anyone so there are no collections. That means Sales is increased by 600 as did AR. It is worth noting here that usually, and this is according to the exam questions I've seen, its commonplace to see Sales balances to be larger than A/R balances. So for this example lets say last years Sales was 1000 and A/r was 500. If both increase by the same fraudulent amount, the greater rate of change goes to A/R. The rules of ratios indicates that if the denominator increases at a rate greater than the numerator, then the ratio has to decrease.
Math Proof:
Yr 1 ART = 1000/500 (assuming ending balances are used instead of avg acct rec) = 2
Yr 2 ART = 1600/1100 = 1.45
Ill walk you through it the opposite way starting from Acct Rec Turnover in Days. If the ratio is increasing dramatically from one year to the next, that means your denominator has to be decreasing [ Days AR = 365 / ART]. Why would ART (acct rec turnover) be decreasing? Well ART = NCS / AR (assume ending balance again). Either Sales is plummeting really really fast compared to the change in AR or A/R is increasing significantly more compared to rate of change in Sales.
I could see an argument that if Sales decreases significantly and people dont pay off their A/R balances, a/r starts accumulating then ART would fall. But, the more likely case in the eyes of the AICPA is that ART would decrease because of fraud (lesson in professional skepticism and the idea that people overstate assets).
Hence, Sales of 1000 in Y1 increases by 600 due entirely to fraud and the Y1 AR balance of 500 increases fraudulently by 600 as well since there arent any collections. AR is increasing at a rate of 120% while sales is increasing only at a rate of 60%.
Basically you need to understand ratios and rates of change to get these analytically ratio questions correctly. tricky i know..
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April 25, 2014 at 1:59 am #568463
scarletknight91Memberbest of luck CPA50! tomorrow is when we face the music..and best of luck to everyone else on this forum. i just hope i never have to talk about auditing over this forum ever again haha
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April 25, 2014 at 2:34 am #568464
AnonymousInactiveOkay scarletknight91, I have to ask, did you graduate from RU in 2013 like me?
April 25, 2014 at 4:34 pm #568465
scarletknight91Memberbronxbombers2 yea from nb
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April 25, 2014 at 8:44 pm #568466
AnonymousInactiveDoes anybody using Becker, know what chapter(s) deal with understanding the entity?
April 26, 2014 at 12:29 am #568467
CPA50ParticipantBack from AUD! Time for pizza and beer. Best wishes to you all in your studying!!
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April 26, 2014 at 4:23 pm #568468
markeckerleMemberAnyone know the answer to this question. I use Yaeger Review and my instructor gave me a different answer then was in the book.
Q: How does an auditor make the following representations when issuing the standard auditor's report on comparative financial statements?
Then there is two columns labeled “Examinations of evidence on a test basis” & “consistent application of accounting principles.”
I know consistency is implicit but i am not sure about examinations of evidence on a test basis…Is that Implicit or Explicit?
The book says explicit, but my instructor says implicit.
All help is appreciated. Thanks!
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