[Q2] REG Study Group 2014 - Page 17

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    jeff
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    I’ve had a few requests for April/May Study Groups…March will be here before you know it.

    In order to take an early April exam, you should begin studying…now. 🙂

    Jeff Elliott, CPA (KS) | Another71 | NINJA CPA | NINJA CMA | NINJA CPE

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    Anonymous
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    Came across this in Wiley and I don't understand it.

    Q: During 2010, Karen purchased 100 shares of preferred stock of Boling Corp for $5,500. During 2012, Karen received a stock dividend of ten additional shares of Boling Corp preferred stock. On the date the preferred stock was distributed, it had a hair market value of $60 per shares. What is Karen's basis in the ten shares of preferred stock that she received as a dividend?

    A: $600. Generally, stock dividends are nontaxable and the basis for original stock is allocated to the dividend stock in proportion to FMVs. However, any stock that is distributed on preferred stock results in a taxable stock dividend.

    I'm a little confused with this one. I thought stock dividends were never taxable. Can anyone help? I can't understand the part in the answer about why it's taxable when it's distributed ON preferred stock…how would I know to tell the difference between when your basis will be FMV or if it will be allocated to your original stock?

    #559150
    schizokitten
    Member

    Hello, study group!

    I am registered to take REG (my first section!!) mid-May. I'm studying with Becker Self Study materials.

    Good luck everyone!! All newbie advice is welcome. 😀

    REG: ***92*** (5/14/14)
    FAR: ***83*** (8/17/14)
    BEC: ***89*** (10/3/14)
    AUD: ***86*** (2/22/15)

    #559151
    TargetCPA
    Participant

    @ msbond28, I am also getting so many confusions about this topic. I took several notes for these ISO, NQSO, ESPP topics.

    ISO (Incentive stock option):

    1. No income is recognized by employee when ISO is granted or exercised.

    2. There is income tax when stock is sold. (Qualifying disposition is Long term Capital gain)

    Example: In 20X1, Ross was granted an ISO by her employer as part of an executive compensation package. Ross exercised the ISO in 20X4 and sold the stock in 20X6 @ a gain. Ross was subject to regular tax for the year in which the => STOCK WAS SOLD.

    Explanation:

    The requirement is to determine when Ross was subject to “regular tax” with regard to stock that was acquired thru the exercise of an ISO.

    There are no tax consequences when ISO is granted to an employee.

    When the ISO is exercised, any excess of the stock's FMV over the option price is a tax preference item for purposes of the employee's AMT.

    However, an employee is not subject to regular tax until the stock acquired thru exercise of the option is sold.

    DISQUALIFYING DISPOSITION: Not meeting the holding-period requirement of two years from offering/grant and one year from purchase is called a “disqualifying disposition”

    * The stock is sold within 2 years after the ISO is granted.

    * The stock is sold within 1 year after the ISO is exercised.

    Ordinary Income = Spread

    Spread = (FMV @ exercise date – exercise paid)

    NQSO (Non-Qualified Stock options)

    1. No Income recognition upon GRANTED.

    2. Income recognition upon EXERCISED ( treat it as an ordinary income)

    3. When it is sold later, then its a CAPITAL GAIN or LOSS.

    ESPP: (Employee Stock Purchase Plan)

    1. Stock in an ESPP is usually purchased at a 15% discount from what it's selling for on the open market.

    2. Your purchases are deducted from your paycheck.

    3. When you sell the stock, you pay tax on the difference between what you paid for the stock and what you sell it for.

    4. If you are selling at a profit, an amount up to your original discount is included in your W2 wages and taxes are withheld immediately.

    There are 2 major types of ESPPs:

    1. Qualified ESPPs => The purchase-price discount can be any amount up to 15%

    2. Non-Qualified ESPP => The purchase-price discount can be any amount up to 18%

    Let's say your company offers a 10% discount on the stock price on the first day of the offering period or the last day of the offering period, whichever is less:

    Stock price on first day of offering period = $10

    Stock price on last day of offering period (tax basis) = $12

    Purchase price of the stock = $9

    Stock price when you sell = $14

    Although you fail to meet the two-year holding period requirement, you do hold for more than one year from the date of purchase and will recognize the following:

    Ordinary income ($12 – $9) per share (aka) Spread = $3

    Long-term capital gain ($14 – $12) per share = $2

    When the market price on the purchase date (e.g., $10.00) is lower than the market price on the offering date (e.g., $12.00), you will, oddly enough, recognize less ordinary income in a disqualifying disposition (e.g., $10.00 purchase date market price – [$10.00 x 0.90 = $9.00] = $1.00 in ordinary income) than in a sale that meets the holding-period requirements discussed below (e.g., $12.00 grant date market price – [$12.00 x 0.90] = $10.80 => $1.20 is ordinary income)

    When you sell the shares after “holding them for two years” from the start of the offering, you will recognize the following:

    Ordinary income ($10 – $9) per share = $1

    Long-term capital gain (Sales price $14 – (ordinary income $1 + purchase price $9) per share) = $4

    Please correct me, if I am missing any key points.

    #559152
    TargetCPA
    Participant

    @ dante042104,

    Non-taxable dividends:

    Dividends from a mutual fund or some other regulated investment company that are not taxed. Taxes are not paid out because the fund invests in municipal and other tax exempt investments.

    Taxable dividends:

    You mentioned “However, any stock that is distributed on preferred stock results in a taxable stock dividend.”

    So, $600 is included in shareholder's income as a stock FMV on date of distribution.

    #559153
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thanks! I think I may have confused it with stock splits…in which case those are never taxable right?

    #559154
    MassCPA2014
    Member

    @dante pure stock splits aren't taxable, but in general stock dividends are taxable only IF the person had the option to receive property or cash instead…otherwise, they aren't taxable either.

    FAR: 86
    AUD: 88
    REG: 85
    BEC: 84
    DONE!

    #559155
    msbond28
    Participant

    THANKS



    @TARGETCPA
    ..Give Me Sometime To Grasp Thus Context..So Called Creating Acro For These…ISO=TOY & ESPP =FOY..THANKS

    B Waiting
    A 76 -Ex. November 2014
    R 60, 68, 76
    F TBD

    Yeager, Ninja Flash, Becker, Wiley Test Bank.

    #559156
    msbond28
    Participant

    ANY advice On Complex Trust And Simple Trust SIms..I Can Answer Basic..But If I Get SIMS How To Prepare.

    OaN:DId Anyone Hear SiMs May Be 80% In Future?

    B Waiting
    A 76 -Ex. November 2014
    R 60, 68, 76
    F TBD

    Yeager, Ninja Flash, Becker, Wiley Test Bank.

    #559157
    MikeHoncho
    Member

    @msbond28 I heard about it. I got an email from gleim about it.

    https://www.another71.com/cpa-exam-forum/topic/email-from-gleim-future-cpa-exam

    Done: 5/22/14

    "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut."
    - Ernest Hemingway

    #559158
    TNDCPA
    Member

    @golfball7773 Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I'll try looking at the slides and writing notes once I get past business law, it seems like the slides alone for these sections are too simple to grasp an understanding. I commend you for continuing to push through even after all your test results; I think I would be in a real downward spiral and that's what I fear may happen. I hope you pass REG this window and keep that motivation up!

    FAR - 89 02/27/14
    REG - 88 04/30/14
    AUD - 90 7/3/14
    BEC - 87 8/30/14 DONE!

    #559159
    TargetCPA
    Participant

    @ msbond28,

    ISO=TOY & ESPP=FOY.

    Could you please elaborate this mnemonic?

    I think, its going to be an easier to remember.

    @ finishorgiveup,

    Welcome to this exam (5/30) date. we are going to take this exam on same day 😛

    I am also so behind from my actual schedule. I almost done with corp videos.

    Have to finish C-corp MCQs by this weekend.

    Have a nice weekend to all!!!

    #559160
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Sitting for the REG exam for the first time on Tuesday. Wish me luck! This weekend is jam-packed with review!! Any tips on the REG exam (MCs & SIMs) is welcome!

    Thanks!

    #559161
    MikeHoncho
    Member

    @davislr21 good luck!

    Done: 5/22/14

    "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut."
    - Ernest Hemingway

    #559162
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @MassCPA2014 thanks but now I am confused about my original question I posted. So the person that received the dividend will still have a basis in the stock but it won't be reported as income and isn't taxable because it was on preferred stock and she didn't have the option to receive cash or property? Is that correct or am I way off?

    #559163
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Just finished up reviewing practice exam #1 (overall score of 76%) with Wiley and my scores were:

    Section #1 83%

    Section #2 77%

    Section #3 80%

    TBS: 70%

    I hate REG SIMs so much. I am praying I get some easy ones on this next exam because they make or break my scores…MCQ's I think I can handle at this point.

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