AUD Study Group Q4 2016 - Page 42

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    jeff
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    Welcome to the Q4 2016 CPA Exam Study Group for AUD.

    If this is your first post in the study group – please post your target exam date (just the time frame to preserve your anonymity), and your past history with this exam (optional, of course).

    Jeff Elliott, CPA (KS) | Another71 | NINJA CPA | NINJA CMA | NINJA CPE

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    Forem004
    Participant

    That is hilarious! Sorry guys!

    #1317685
    JT
    Participant

    Lol… When you replied “are you being serious JT???” I thought you were upset at me because I gave a possibly stupid answer to your question that you were offended by.

    That's the cyber world for ya!

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    #1317772
    TheblackCPAseeker
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    Guys just took my exam this morning, I feel it went well (more positive than the last two attempts). I couldn't have wished for better SIMs. I hoping for good news on the 22nd. Good luck and you will hear from me on the 22nd, Happy studying.

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    BEC - Sometime in 2016

    We are destined for this.

    #1317788
    GiniC
    Participant

    @TheblackCPAseeker {{{{{GOOD VIBES FOR A GREAT SCORE!!!!}}}}}

    #1317811
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Park, CPA, was engaged to audit the financial statements of Tech Co., a new client, for the year ended December 31, 20X1. Park obtained sufficient appropriate audit evidence for all of Tech's financial statement items, except Tech's opening inventory. Due to inadequate financial records, Park could not verify Tech's January 1, 20X1, inventory balances. Park's opinion on Tech's 20X1 financial statements most likely will be:

    Incorrect A.
    a disclaimer opinion issued on both the balance sheet and the income statement.

    B.
    an unmodified opinion issued on the balance sheet and a disclaimer opinion issued on the income statement.

    C.
    a disclaimer opinion issued on the balance sheet and an adverse opinion issued on the income statement.

    D.
    an unmodified opinion issued on the balance sheet and an adverse opinion issued on the income statement.

    #1317814
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    The answer is B and it was really bugging me so I spent the last half hour reading the literature and finally found why in AU-C 510.A17

    Audit Conclusions and Reporting
    Opening Balances
    The inability of the auditor to obtain sufficient appropriate audit evidence regarding opening balances may result in one of the following modifications to the opinion in the auditor's report:
    a. A qualified opinion or a disclaimer of opinion, as is appropriate in the circumstances.
    b. An opinion that is qualified or disclaimed, as appropriate, regarding the results of operations and cash flows, when relevant, and unmodified regarding financial position.

    https://www.aicpa.org/Research/Standards/AuditAttest/DownloadableDocuments/AU-C-00510.pdf

    also exhibit A gives an example auditor's report with that type of opinion

    #1317842
    GiniC
    Participant

    @Dr Cash A Milli –

    That's a “rule” – but I can't memorize everything in that book, I need the reasons/logic behind it. In thinking about the statements and the impact of that uncertainty on the beginning balance, does this make sense for why the split opinions are as prescribed in AU-C 510.A17? (I'm assuming a retail operation here, it's simpler to “walk through” than manufacturing – but the same basic logic should apply, I think.)

    The ending balances are known and we have as much confidence as is possible, having observed inventories and collected evidence sufficient to support them – That would support the unmodified opinion on the balance sheet/statement of financial position.

    The operations and cash flows, however, depend on knowing where the assets/inventory started AND where it ended, as the revenues and costs stem from Beginning balance + Additions (purchases) less Subtractions (sales) equals Ending balance. Even if you are certain of the Additions and Subtractions from source documents, you aren't fully confident in sales because you don't really know how much was sold from that uncertain beginning balance. Therefore your sales/revenue and cost of goods sold are uncertain. If the probable amount is material (as would be the case for a retailer since inventory/sales revenue is the principal source of income) the opinion on Income Statement and Statement of Cash Flows must be modified.

    As for choosing the type of modified opinion: the inability to ascertain beginning balances is a scope limitation (another place I struggle) because the auditor was for some reason not able to observe inventory counts or review sufficient documentation from a predecessor to be confident in that balance – GAAS issue not GAAP, so Adverse is “off the table”. Opinion will be Qualified if the amount is material but not pervasive, and Disclaimer if the amount is “very material” or pervasive.

    Does that cover everything?

    #1317847
    GiniC
    Participant

    By the way – GOOD LUCK TOMORROW @Dr Cash A Milli

    #1317872
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    yeah, your reasoning is spot on. we know the B/S is good, but the income statement and statement of cash flow rely on that opening balance, so it's a scope limitation.

    my issue with the answer is this: we are auditing the F/S as a whole, and there is a scope limitation, why do we not issue a qualified/disclaimer of opinion for the F/S as a whole?

    i could definitely be wrong, but isn't this a piecemeal opinion, which is generally disallowed? in my understanding, AU-C 510.A17 is stating the exception to the rule, so it's at least worth noting.

    and thanks! i usually reserve my last day studying for obsessing over pointless details 😀

    #1317887
    GiniC
    Participant

    @Dr Cash A Milli – I can help with that – I actually argued that point with my live-review instructor. We both researched it and found that the piecemeal prohibition is a special case, rather than the general rule. If you give a modified opinion on the statements as a whole, you cannot give a ‘better' opinion on any part, as that would tend to contradict or dilute the overall message that the statements as a whole should not be fully relied upon. However, if your opinion is split from the beginning, it's OK – or if you provide an unmodified opinion on the statements as a whole you are permitted to qualify the opinion for an individual statement or item.

    #1317941
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thank you! that makes so much sense.

    made me realize i was misinterpreting the phrase “taken as a whole”. it doesn't mean it has to be “a complete set” of F/S. it could refer to an opinion on an individual statement “taken as a whole”.

    AU-C 508.05 if anyone wants to read more. also talks about the split opinion on individual statements being ok if circumstances warrant.

    #1317950
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    just wanting to make sure i'm up to date on the single audit rules.

    the threshold is $750k in federal expenditures

    percent coverage is 20% for low risk and 40% otherwise? anything else i should know?

    #1317955
    JT
    Participant

    Those numbers sound right to me.

    This topic is one of my weak points, but I think if the entity only has one program for the expenditures, then they can file to have an audit on that specific program and not on the entire financials. Correct? I think there is an exemption or something.

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    #1317956
    JT
    Participant

    Do you guys have a method for remembering the rules for comparative reporting when one period is audited and another is not, or when you report on comparative for upgrades/down grades between comps and reviews?

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    #1317961
    JT
    Participant

    Also reporting on other information presented in an audit vs supplemental information presented vs required supplemental information?

    I mean, are you guys just purely memorizing each situation/scenario? Or am I missing the bigger picture here?

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