REG Study Group Q1 2015 - Page 60

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  • #651931
    Gabe
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    hmm anyone else know?

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    #651932
    The_AmYam
    Member

    see pages R3-44 R3-45

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    #651933
    Gabe
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    Thanks am. According to my NINJA notes:

    Pship distribution

    Decrease basis in order:

    1. cash received

    2. AB of unreal receiv/inventpry

    3. AB of other prop

    Only $ distributions will trigger a gain in a pship distribution

    A loss can ONLY occur in liquidating distribution

    Corp distribution:

    Prop= FMV

    Order:

    1) Distribution= dividend to extent of accum E&P

    2) excess reduces basis

    3) any left over? cap gain

    Distribution amt= FMV of prop + $ – liab assumed

    IF FMV < Basis- NO LOSS

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    #651934
    omalloy
    Member

    Great! I had it right after all 🙂 Thank you for the recap.

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    #651935
    NJPRU
    Member

    Thank goodness I have off Monday to review Corps, S Corps, and Partnerships. I'm forgetting everything 🙁

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    #651936
    Gabe
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    @NJ it's a lot to remember. I am taking this weekend to go full on crazy on everything, do some light studying Monday then I take my exam Tuesday 🙂

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    #651937
    NJPRU
    Member

    @Gabe – everything is at a, DUH moment for me right now instead of an “IDK” which is a good sign. Monday will be tough. I'm sure you'll do great!! You seem to have everything tied up. 🙂

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    #651938
    Gabe
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    Definitely lots of DUH moments…going to wrap it up this weekend and ATTACK on Tuesday 🙂

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    #651939
    The_AmYam
    Member

    Gabe – yes, for the most part.

    Corp Distribution:

    Say a company has 40,000 Accum E + P, (20,000) Current E+P, and makes 2 distributions during the year of 15,000 (let's say at mid year-end of year for simplicity):

    AEP total less 1/2 CEP –

    40,000 – 10,000 = 30,000 AEP for your first distribution

    30,000 – 15,000 = 15,000 for the second half of the year

    15,000 – 10,000 = 5k remaining to distribute

    so for the 2nd half of the year: 5k dividend, 10k return of capital, 0 E+P left over

    it's tricky if you have accumulated and negative current

    Current E+P: dividend

    Accumulated E+P: Dividend

    No E+P: reduce basis

    No basis: capital gain

    ^^^^ important ****

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    #651940
    The_AmYam
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    try this one:

    Emerald Corporation's E&P before the distribution: $8,000

    FMV of distributed property : 6,000

    Basis of distributed property: 2,000

    Liability on property assumed by distribute: 3,500

    calculate:

    Recognized gain (loss) to Emerald Corporation (A)

    Shareholder's : (B)Taxable dividend

    Basis for property received

    Emerald Corporation's EandP after distribution (C)

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    #651941
    The_AmYam
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    Answer:

    Recognized gain (loss) to Emerald Corporation (A) – $4,000

    Shareholder's : (B)Taxable dividend – $2,500

    Basis for property received – $6,000

    Emerald Corporation's EandP after distribution (C) – $9,500

    (A) $6,000 − $2,000 = $4,000 gain.

    (B) $6,000 FMV reduced by $3,500 liability assumed = $2,500 dividend.

    Basis for property received is its FMV of $6,000.

    (C) $8,000 + $4,000 gain − $6,000 FMV + $3,500 liability assumed = $9,500

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    #651942
    Gabe
    Participant

    @am

    AEP total less 1/2 CEP –

    40,000 – 10,000 = 30,000 AEP for your first distribution

    ^^ why only half of CEP?

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    #651943
    Gabe
    Participant

    @am holy cow…anyway to keep all this straight?

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    #651944
    The_AmYam
    Member

    the only way I can is to do it and memorize it….

    only half because if they distributed CEP twice in the year, you assume half of the deficit was earned in the first half of the year and half in the 2nd half of the year.

    to be honest – this is why I paid for wiley on top of Becker. :/

    I pulled the example above from a sim, I will put the other sim in here that deals w/ the negative CEP so you can see what I'm talking about a little better.

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    #651945
    The_AmYam
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    Assume that you are working on issues regarding corporate distributions with your client, Emerald Corporation.

    Complete the cells in the schedule below for the following nonliquidating corporate distributions. Indicate for each independent case the amount of the July 1 nonliquidating distribution that should be treated as a dividend or as a return of stock basis by the distributee shareholder. Additionally, indicate the amount of the distributing corporation's accumulated earnings and profits as of the beginning of 2015. For each independent case, assume the corporation uses the calendar year for tax purposes, that all cash distributions are made on July 1, 2014, and that the distributee shareholder's stock basis before the distribution is $10,000. Also assume for cases (d) and (e) that an accurate determination of when the 2014 deficit occurred cannot be made. If the value of a cell is zero, you must enter zero (0) to receive credit for your answer.

    Accum. E&P beg. of 2014: $40,000

    Current E&P entire 2014 : ($55,000)

    Cash dist. on July 1 : $15,000

    *solve for*

    Amount of dividend:

    Return of stock basis:

    Accum. E&P beg. of 2015:

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