REG Study Group April/May 2013 - Page 16

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  • #415046
    Anonymous
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    @ Lisa,

    thank you! Taxation of Retirement Plans I meant traditional IRA, Roth IRA, conversion of trad. IRA to Roth IRA, 401(K) Coverdell Education Savings Account , and distributions/ withdrawals of/from any of these. There are more of dif. plans like health and education plans/accounts in the same topic. Too much information and numbers.

    #415047
    Lisa
    Member

    @CPA_NY:

    As a general rule, first evaluate whether the Taxpayer got a tax deduction when the contribution was made. If so, the whole amount comes out as taxable income (Principle + Interest). If the principle invested in the retirement plan does not receive a tax deduction ( so its after tax dollars) then this principle gets to be withdrawn (if withdrawn according to the rules) without any taxes. However the interest is taxable. While a Roth's deposits are after tax dollars, there was no tax deduction (and its after tax dollars), both Prin + Int is withdrawn without taxation.Becker has a good chart on this and If you don't have it, I'll supply it. Since my background is tax planning, I did not have to create any memory aids for this area. I did roughly know the income cut-off's for a deductible IRA and Roth. In terms of a Coverdell IRA, these are called IRA's but are basically education accounts for minor's. As Becker, aptly states grandparents save for their grandchildren with these accounts….

    I know this is not much help, but if you memorize the becker chart and get the basic facts for Coverdell IRA's, you should be in pretty good shape here. When I would memorize a chart, I would start by memorizing initials. Hope this gets you started.

    AUD 8/04/11: 78
    BEC 1/9/12: 73, 4/04/12: 80
    FAR 10/25/12: 80
    REG 02/25/13: 79
    Ethics 100%
    VA License Issued 3/2013

    #415048
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thank you, Lisa. I don't have a Becker chart I'm using cpaexcel review. And I fell like I'm more confused about tax deductions and conversion prob. What I remembered from MCQ so far is that Roth IRA contributions are not deductible:))) Does this chart also include maximum amounts for contributions? Anyway, I would greatly appreciate if you could supply it. And thank you again!

    #415049
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    What is the difference between inside and outside basis? I'm in the R4 questions on partnerships and I can't find any decent websites that quickly explain it. Anyone have any links or suggestions?

    #415050
    smp73
    Member

    @ CPA_NY Thank you! I have not even looked at a CPA note today! I did find it funny that my phone auto corrected wildly to Wiley (I was texting someone about how excited I was about a birthday present)! I bought some fancy new pens to study with..but probably won't be used today!

    Hope everyone is having a great and productive day!

    NYS CPA License # 113563
    CIA: Done as of 2/15/14

    Training for a half marathon post studying!

    #415051
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Furthermore, in the following example, how do you know which order in which to apply the adjustments to basis? Do you just assume that these assets were distributed in the order in which they're listed?

    “The CSU partnership distributed to each partner cash of $4,000, inventory with a basis of $4,000 and a fair market value (FMV) of $6,000, and land with an adjusted basis of $5,000 and an FMV of $3,000 in a liquidating distribution. Partner Chang had an outside basis in Chang's partnership interest of $12,000. In the second year after receiving the liquidating distribution, Chang sold the inventory for $5,000 and the land for $3,000. What income must Chang report upon the sale of these assets?

    a.

    $0 gain or loss.

    b.

    $0 ordinary gain and $1,000 capital loss.

    c.

    $1,000 ordinary gain and $1,000 capital loss.

    d.

    $1,000 ordinary gain and $0 capital loss.

    Explanation

    Choice “c” is correct. In this liquidating distribution of a partnership, three different assets are distributed. The $4,000 cash distributed reduces Chang's (outside) basis in the partnership to $8,000. At that point, Chang's outside basis is less than the total (inside) basis of the remaining property distributed. The inventory gets $4,000 of basis first and Chang's outside basis is reduced to $4,000. The land gets the remaining $4,000 basis (whatever is left over). The sale of the inventory for $5,000 then produces a $1,000 ordinary gain ($5,000 – $4,000), and the sale of the land for $3,000 produces a $1,000 capital loss ($3,000 – $4,000).”

    #415052
    Lisa
    Member

    @CPA_ NY: I'll look up and get the Becker chart, for you today. (By the way the library often has these CPA review books, although not the current copies that you can check out).

    @Chefblake: Inside Basis is the Partnership's basis and Outside Basis is the Partner's basis. (If you think abour it, this makes sense). While these are usually the same, they can be different due to liabilities, and ssets that were contributed with a gain and then SOLD by the partnership. There is a tax text book that was used in my Comm College classes known as ‘CCH Federal Taxation' and it explains these concepts very well. I used it when I was studying for REG. By the way, you do NOT need the 2013 copy in order to be helpful. You might be able to get a copy at your local library.

    @smp73: Happy Birthday!

    AUD 8/04/11: 78
    BEC 1/9/12: 73, 4/04/12: 80
    FAR 10/25/12: 80
    REG 02/25/13: 79
    Ethics 100%
    VA License Issued 3/2013

    #415053
    MCLKT
    Participant

    Hey all, sorry I haven't been as active as I would like to be. But, sometimes in an effort to really focus, I have to check out for a bit. I wanted to touch base with the REG fam before I check out again.

    NAM!!! Thanks for hanging around!

    I continue to look to you for motivation and inspiration. Going through FAR with you, and knowing you are done, is so helpful.

    I'm still very jealous and proud of you at the same time 🙂

    And thanks to those of you that are answering questions and helping us all through this journey.

    Keep up the hard work everyone. Just imagine yourself the day before your exam, and know all of the effort we put in now, will give us confidence and peace to sleep well that night.

    A:[73]97 F:[74]85 R:86 B:[74]82
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    #415054
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Lisa,

    thank you and for letting me know about the library as well. I honestly never checked the library.

    #415055
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @ Lisa, thanks! That helps, and it's short too. I'm actually at a library right now! Maybe I'll look and see if they have a copy. Side note: one of the research websites we used in my Tax Research class was CCH.

    #415056
    Lisa
    Member

    Becker chart page R2-10 (2012 book):

    IRA Contribution And Withdrawal Summary:

    1. Trad. DED IRA 2.Catch-up IRA 3.Roth IRA 4.Non-DED IRA 5. Coverdell IRA

    Tax “adjustment” 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. No 4. No 5. No

    Maximum Contribution 1. $5000 2. $1000 3. $5000 4. $5000 5. $2000

    Accumulate tax-fee/deferred 1.Yes 2 Yes 3. Yes 4. Yes 5. Yes

    WiIthdrawals- Principal 1. Taxable 2.Taxable 3. Non-Taxable 4. Non-taxable 5. Non-Taxable

    Withdrawals- Earnings 1. Taxable 2.Taxable 3. Non-Taxable 4. Taxable 5. Non-Taxable

    AUD 8/04/11: 78
    BEC 1/9/12: 73, 4/04/12: 80
    FAR 10/25/12: 80
    REG 02/25/13: 79
    Ethics 100%
    VA License Issued 3/2013

    #415057
    Lisa
    Member

    Sorry, the chart does not set-up (line-up) properly once sent. But if you line up the chart numbers with the information then it will be correct.

    AUD 8/04/11: 78
    BEC 1/9/12: 73, 4/04/12: 80
    FAR 10/25/12: 80
    REG 02/25/13: 79
    Ethics 100%
    VA License Issued 3/2013

    #415058
    wendywhite
    Member

    Checking in –

    I think I'm the oddball and hit the contract law, agency law, UCC articles & bankruptcy first and am going to hit taxation next. I felt good about getting down such a volume of details – i've used over 300 index cards already and then….

    then I realized all that I've already studied is only 17-21% of the exam.

    blah.

    FAR 11/2012: 80
    AUD 2/19/2013: 90
    REG 5/14/2013: 76
    BEC 11/2013: 85
    Ethics: 100
    Waiting on the packet....

    #415059
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @ Lisa,

    Thanks a lot!

    #415060
    smp73
    Member

    Going to try and get in a hour of studying today. I feel like I should do some studying even though it is my birthday haha! Nothing too strenous mind you. Funny for the day: the treadmill at my gym automatically stops when you hit 60 minutes. Like stops on a dime at 60 minutes. Fairly certain I made a fool of myself. Glad I can laugh about it. Now off to study with my fancy new pens!

    @Wendy the last time I took REG I started with all the b-law stuff first. I ended with tax because it is my weaker topic when compared to b-law and for what ever reason I can remember b-law stuff better than tax. Good luck!

    NYS CPA License # 113563
    CIA: Done as of 2/15/14

    Training for a half marathon post studying!

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