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August 30, 2014 at 3:33 pm #188294
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November 17, 2014 at 10:01 pm #628519
GabeParticipantAhh! I was going to respond and say I have no clue BUT I just remembered: with the first payment you are only paying principal no interest. So, technically, the interest expense would be based off of the present value amount.
FYI: I hate this question and always answer A too
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CISA- Experience will be completed by August 2016November 17, 2014 at 10:17 pm #628520
Future NinjaParticipant@mb I reviewed Lease yesterday. The way I do it, I create 4 columns. First for cash payment, second for interest expense based on the carrying value multiply by the lesser of implied interest rate versus other rate, third for the amortization ( the difference of first column and second column and 4th for the carrying value which is 4th column less the 3rd column (amortization). They were asking what would be the amount in the second column = the interest expense multiply the carrying value.
It's hard to illustrate here by column but I hope this helps. Your logic will work to deduct automatic the $200,000 if the lessee paid it at the beginning of the lease = ,meaning due now = annuity due of $1.
AUD - 79 (expired) retaking July 28,2016
FAR - 76 expiring July 31, 2016
BEC - 85
REG - 74,74,74,74,59,70,November 17, 2014 at 10:19 pm #628521
mb0363Member@gabe @ninja is this because the interest has not technically accrued yet? i feel like the explanation is trying to tell me that one year hasn't elapsed yet. (january 2- december 31 does not exactly equal one year)
@ninja very helpful!! i actually do columns too in a way my Becker professor taught us, very similar!
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FAR - PASSNovember 17, 2014 at 10:25 pm #628522
Determined CPAParticipantmb0363 – the lease began at the beginning of the year so you would take the PV and times that by the stated rate. The first lease payment wasn't until December so interest would be on the full PV amount
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B - 78 God is good.
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Still on a cloud and in shock. Through God, all things will happen.November 17, 2014 at 10:33 pm #628523
SsbknycMember@mb0363 For a capital lease, the lessor records the lease as an asset and a liability at the LESSER of the FV of the asset at the inception of the lease OR PV of minimum lease payments
In that question the PV of the minimum lease payments is less than ($200,000 x 5 payments). Therefore, he would use $758,000.
The interest starts accruing on Jan 1 and is for the year so 10% of $758,000 is $75,800. Now if he made the first payment on Jan 1, i believe thats when you would subtract a payment from the total then calculate the interest for the year.
Done 08/2014-08/2015
November 17, 2014 at 10:38 pm #628524
mb0363Member@Ssbknyc @Determined CPA @Future Ninja @Gabe JUST clicked! only took 4 people…haha thanks everyone!!!
If the payment does not occur when the lease started, we do not subtract it and Interest would be on the PVMLP.
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FAR - PASSNovember 17, 2014 at 11:28 pm #628525
GabeParticipantAwesome! Thanks @Ssb!
I'll be on later studying…til then 🙂
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CISA- Experience will be completed by August 2016November 18, 2014 at 12:03 am #628526
Future NinjaParticipantthanks @Ssb. That's a great help.
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FAR - 76 expiring July 31, 2016
BEC - 85
REG - 74,74,74,74,59,70,November 18, 2014 at 12:22 am #628527
Determined CPAParticipantFalton Co. had the following first-year amounts related to its $9,000,000 construction contract:
Actual costs incurred and paid $2,000,000
Estimated costs to complete 6,000,000
Progress billings 1,800,000
Cash collected 1,500,000
What amount should Falton recognize as a current liability at year-end, using the percentage-of-completion method?
Answer is 0
At year-end, Falton should record an account receivable of $300,000 (1,800,000 – 1,500,000) and inventory of $2,000,000. However, no current liability exists.
Journal entries:
Construction in Progress 2,250,000
Cash and profit 2,250,000
Accounts Receivable 1,800,000
Progress Billings 1,800,000
Cash 1,500,000
Accounts Receivable 1,500,000
Is the construction in progress the 2,000,000 costs incurred + 250,000 current gross profit? Im confused where the 2,250,000 comes from?
A - 75
B - 78 God is good.
F - 77 Answered prayers.
R - 84! Done!!Paperwork sent - waiting for license!!
Still on a cloud and in shock. Through God, all things will happen.November 18, 2014 at 12:45 am #628528
salringParticipantDetermined CPA,
Construction in progress = actual costs/total cost X Contract price
Total costs = Actual costs + Cost to complete = 2,000,000 + 6,000,000 = 8,000,000
CIP = 2,000,000/8,000,000 X9,000,000 = 2,250,000
November 18, 2014 at 12:55 am #628529
Determined CPAParticipantThank you salring
so much to absorb
A - 75
B - 78 God is good.
F - 77 Answered prayers.
R - 84! Done!!Paperwork sent - waiting for license!!
Still on a cloud and in shock. Through God, all things will happen.November 18, 2014 at 12:58 am #628530
Determined CPAParticipantOn January 2, 20X1, Nori Mining Co. (lessee) entered into a 5-year lease for drilling equipment. Nori accounted for the acquisition as a capital lease for $240,000, which includes a $10,000 bargain purchase option. At the end of the lease, Nori expects to exercise the bargain purchase option. Nori estimates that the equipment's fair value will be $20,000 at the end of its 8-year life. Nori regularly uses straight-line depreciation on similar equipment. For the year ended December 31, 20X1, what amount should Nori recognize as depreciation expense on the leased asset?
The answer is $27,500
The explanation said that with a capital lease, when a bargain purchase exists, depreciation should be computed over the useful life of the asset.
2 questions:
1. If there was no bargain purchase, we would have used 5 years, right?
2. If the bargain option wasn't included in the lease, would we have backed that amount out or added it to the lease?
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B - 78 God is good.
F - 77 Answered prayers.
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Still on a cloud and in shock. Through God, all things will happen.November 18, 2014 at 1:10 am #628531
ron10590MemberWhy are dividends paid by a parent or sub not reported in a consolidated balance sheet, even if paid to outside parties?
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AUD (5/15):November 18, 2014 at 1:23 am #628532
salringParticipant@Determined CPA,
Yes, are you familiar with OWNS?
Ownership @the end of the lease
Written BPO
90% FV
75% useful life
If the lease meets the first 2 criteria O & W use life of the asset/lease
If it meets the last 2 criteria N & S use the term of the lease which in most cases is shorter than the life of the leased asset.
If there was no BPO or transfer of ownership at the end of the lease term we would have deducted the $10K and used 5yrs
November 18, 2014 at 1:29 am #628533
salringParticipantRon,
I think that only the dividends paid by the sub to the parent are eliminated, the portion of divs that belongs to the sub is added to the non-controlling interest for the acquiree also known as the sub. I think they are eliminating the divs paid by the sub to the parent to avoid double counting since the consolidated statements will be for both sub and parent.
Dividend's paid by the parent to others reduces the parent's retained earnings and the dividends paid by the sub reduces the NCI balance. Remember that even if these dividends paid were reported separated for each entity they would be reducing the RE and not recorded as a line item on the balance sheet.
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