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May 14, 2014 at 3:33 pm #185549
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July 12, 2014 at 10:13 pm #598679
AnonymousInactiveI thought cost method was very straightforward, I was solving it in my head.
With par value, it always feels like I almost get it, almost. But I also just drove to Chili's instead of Chipotle by mistake so there is no surprise I get confused about more complicated things
July 12, 2014 at 10:23 pm #598680
VlakmirMemberThe way I think of it,
PAR Value method
– Goes into Treasury stock at PAR, the original CS APIC is backed out, and RE is plugged.
When it comes back out, its like a normal stock sale except using TS instead of CS.
Cost Method
-Goes into Treasure stock at cost, straight up against cash.
-Comes back out at cost, and with any “gain”(Sales price over cost) goes to TS APIC, and any “loss” (Sales price less than original cost of TS) omes out of TS APIC to the extent of TS APIC, and the rest out of RE.
Theoretically, the cost method treats the purchase and resale as one transaction (Thats why you record these “gains” and “losses” by reducing TS APIC or RE.
The par method treats the purchase and resale as two transactions (thats why you completely get rid of the CS APIC, plug RE, and then sell it like a normal sale when you resell it.
Hope that helps. I don't like memorizing journal entries, I can't do it. If I know why I'm doing something, the journal entries fall out from there
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DONE! /HappydanceJuly 12, 2014 at 10:30 pm #598681
AnonymousInactiveVlakmir,
That worked for me too until I saw that APIC-T/S was credited 10/1/02 (from JE's HopefulCPA posted). The part with
APIC-C/S and APIC-T/S isn't really clear
July 12, 2014 at 11:25 pm #598682
AnonymousInactiveHi All,
I hate asking this, because it's from basic accounting but I noticed a discrepancy in my understanding of the direct method for interest expense for the cash flow statement, and need someone to help clear it up.
Ninja MCQ had the following question and answer:
In its cash flow statement for the current year, Ness Co. reported cash paid for interest of $70,000. Ness did not capitalize any interest during the current year. Changes occurred in several balance sheet accounts as follows:
Accrued interest payable $17,000 decrease
Prepaid interest 23,000 decrease
In its income statement for the current year, what amount should Ness report as interest expense?
NINJA ANSWER:
Interest expense = Cash interest + Decrease in prepaid interest – Decrease in interest payable
• Interest expense = $70,000 + 23,000 – $17,000 = $76,000
Another simple way to analyze a question like this is to prepare a journal entry reflecting the appropriate account changes. In this case:
DR Interest Expense Unknown
DR Interest Payable (decrease) 17,000
CR Prepaid Interest (decrease) 23,000
CR Cash (interest paid) 70,000
Interest expense must be debited for $76,000 to balance the entry.
MY ANSWER:
From my understanding, the answer should be 64000 instead of 76000, because a decrease in interest payable of 17000 means additional cash was paid out (so add it to interest expense), while a decrease in prepaid interest of 23000 means additional cash was not paid out (so subtract it from interest expense) as follows:
70000 + 17000 -23000 = 64000
Also, on a separate note, bond premium amortization is added to interest expense while bond discount amortization is subtracted from interest expense in the direct cash flow method, right?
Thank you for your replies!
July 12, 2014 at 11:47 pm #598683
AnonymousInactivecpafun,
I get 76000. did you try to set T accounts? Decrease in ppd expense means that expense for that amount was recorded.
Now liability. Let's say credit balance was 100000, 70000 payment was made during the year, so the balance would have been 30, but it's 83000 (100000 minus 17000 decrease) which means expense of 53000 was also recorded during the year.
23000 + 53000 = 76000.
July 13, 2014 at 12:18 am #598684
GutiParticipantOn January 1, year 2, Neel Corp. issued 400,000 additional shares of $10 par value common stock in exchange for all of Pym Corp.’s common stock. Immediately before this business combination, Neel’s stockholders’ equity was $16,000,000 and Pym’s stockholders’ equity was $8,000,000. On January 1, year 2, the fair value of Neel’s common stock was $20 per share, and the fair value of Pym’s net assets was $8,000,000. Neel’s net income for the year ended December 31, year 2, exclusive of any consideration of Pym, was $2,500,000. Pym’s net income for the year ended December 31, year 2, was $600,000. During year 2 Neel paid dividends of $900,000. Neel had no business transactions with Pym in year 2.
Assuming that this business combination is appropriately accounted for as a business acquisition, consolidated stockholders’ equity at December 31, year 2, should be?
As per Becker, I was under the impression that when you acquire 100% of a sub, and you consolidate, you eliminate the subs stockholders equity. The only stockholder’s equity would be the parents correct?
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BEC-July 13, 2014 at 12:38 am #598685
GutiParticipantFrom my understanding, the answer should be 64000 instead of 76000, because a decrease in interest payable of 17000 means additional cash was paid out (so add it to interest expense), while a decrease in prepaid interest of 23000 means additional cash was not paid out (so subtract it from interest expense) as follows:
70000 + 17000 -23000 = 64000
You are correct if they were asking for cash outflow for interest,but they are not asking for that, they want to know interest expence. The outflow was 70K as per the question.
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BEC-July 13, 2014 at 12:52 am #598686
samdiegoCPAMemberI got $64,000 as well, but probably got it the wrong way:
Dr Interest Expense cash paid $70,000
Dr Interest Payable because you're decreasing a Liability balance +$17,000
Cr Prepaid Interest because you're decreasing an Asset balance -$23,000
New Interest Expense Balance: $64,000
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FAR: 83July 13, 2014 at 1:00 am #598687
GutiParticipantsamdiegoCPA, they were asking for interest expense and not cash paid for interest,so if you book the JE, the naswer for interest expense is 76K.
DR Interest Expense Unknown
DR Interest Payable (decrease) 17,000
CR Prepaid Interest (decrease) 23,000
CR Cash (interest paid) 70,000
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BEC-July 13, 2014 at 1:03 am #598688
AnonymousInactiveGian, what's your question?
It would be similar to equity method, Pym’s net income is added to parent's income and only then consolidated. Is it 26200?
July 13, 2014 at 1:08 am #598689
GutiParticipantanjanja, that is the answer,but I thought you were supposed to eliminate subs CAR (Ownwers Equity)?
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BEC-July 13, 2014 at 1:13 am #598690
AnonymousInactiveIf you consolidate on same date as acquisition, but here you acquired Jan 1st and consolidating Dec 31. It's accounted for as equity method during the year and then consolidated. So Neel would probably record this entry:
Investment 600000
Equity in earnings 600000 so now it's in parent's income
July 13, 2014 at 1:18 am #598691
GutiParticipantJuly 13, 2014 at 1:41 am #598692
samdiegoCPAMemberOn hour 8 of studying today and hope to get to 10pm… I wish fro yo delivered!
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FAR: 83July 13, 2014 at 2:34 pm #598693
AnonymousInactiveI will be killed by gov. accounting on the exam. How is C and D not correct? Does proprietary fund not have other financing source or use? I don't see these points being emphasized anywhere in my book
An interfund transfer:
A. Is reported in a proprietary fund’s statement of revenues, expenses, and changes in fund net position after non-operating revenues and expenses.
B. Is the internal counterpart to an exchange or an exchange-like transaction.
C. Is reported in a proprietary fund as an other financing source or use.
D. Results in a receivable and a payable.
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