[Q3] FAR Study Group 2014 - Page 74

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  • #598573
    samdiegoCPA
    Member

    No SIMS.

    I'll be here in 3 hrs to do questions alone or with whoever! 😉

    AUD: 84
    REG: 84
    BEC: 79
    FAR: 83

    #598574
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hello,

    Could anybody explain this answer? How come costs incurred by the acquiring entity that are directly related to the acquisition are not considered part of the acquisition cost of an acquired entity in a business combination?

    A combination is accounted for as an acquisition (initiated in a fiscal year beginning after December 15, 2008). Which of the following would be considered part of the acquisition cost of an acquired entity in a business combination?

    I Costs incurred by the acquiring entity that are directly related to the acquisition

    II Costs incurred by the acquired entity that are directly related to the acquisition

    III Indirect acquisition costs incurred by the acquiring entity

    A. I only

    B. I and II only

    C. I and III only

    D. None of these items would be part of the acquisition cost.

    The correct answer is D.

    FASB ASC 805-10-25-21 requires that acquisition-related costs be charged to expense. All of these costs are acquisition-related costs and should be expensed in the period incurred.

    #598575
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @anjanja this probably isn't what you want to hear, but you don't consider acquisition-related costs like legal fees, finder's fees, general/admin fees as part of the acquisition cost because, well, you don't. that is just the way it is.

    I mean, if you want to think about it logically, how much are you paying FOR the company ITSELF? how much are you paying to acquire the company's net assets? okay, you paid an appraiser to tell you how much they're worth, you paid a lawyer to draw up the paperwork, and yes, those costs are related to buying the company, but…well, when you pay cash or issue securities to the entity/its owners, you're doing that in exchange for their net assets, that's a cost of acquiring the business. when you pay cash to the lawyer, you're doing that in exchange for their legal services. you might need that in order to ultimately acquire the business, but that exchange isn't for the company's net assets.

    it seems kind of trivial, but it's a very easy, and extremely important fact to remember. and you don't need to think about the logic, really, just if you see acquisition costs, expense them (unless they're costs associated with securities you issued to acquire the company, then they are reductions of paid in capital). honestly, my logic could be totally off-base here, but that's how I always thought about it – in the end, it doesn't matter, you just gotta expense them.

    #598576
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    How do I study for authoritative literature? And, I guess I'll ask why we need to be tested on this? I would think this would be almost a freebie kind of question, but I cannot figure these out that easily

    #598577
    Tootsie
    Member

    Hi! I just wanted to recommend to you all that doing the practice sims is so worth it! It helped me with 2 of the sims on the exam. I also stress doing the AICPA released questions (2006 – 2014) and sample exam. All of these and Becker questions helped me a lot this time around.

    Happy studying! I am going to the REG study room now and hope I don't have to come back to the FAR study room ever again, lol! 🙂

    FAR - 76
    AUD - 88!!! DONE!!!!!!!!
    BEC - 76
    REG - 77

    never, never, never give up

    #598578
    Delta_Diva_
    Member

    I would also recommend doing all the sims questions. I took my exam on July 2nd and I was prepared after answering all of Becker's sims questions.

    FAR:68,71,70,72 (Rematch 7/2/14)
    AUD:88
    REG:76
    BEC:75

    #598579
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    dragnets,

    I know these costs are expensed as incurred and don't reduce the amount of consideration, but they are still acquisition costs, aren't they? I am may be confused about the definition or something, but the question just doesn't make sense to me.

    #598580
    mightyjet
    Participant

    Dunne Co. sells equipment service contracts that cover a two-year period. The sales price of each contract is $600. Dunne's past experience is that, of the total dollars spent for repairs on service contracts, 40% is incurred evenly during the first contract year and 60% evenly during the second contract year. Dunne sold 1,000 contracts evenly throughout the current year. In its December 31 balance sheet, what amount should Dunne report as deferred service contract revenue?

    a.

    $360,000

    b.

    $300,000

    c.

    $540,000

    d.

    $480,000

    ran across this in Becker F2 chapter. I finally understand why the answer is D, but i have a question about what would you report as deferred revenue in year 2 and is some revenue also deferred in year 3?

    #598581
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @mighty jet

    I am of no help, but could you explain how we come to D as the answer?

    #598582
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @anjanja

    I see what you mean now. when they ask for “acquisition cost of an acquired entity” they are specifically referring to the amount you're going to capitalize, use to determine goodwill, that kind of stuff. while costs like legal services, finder's fees, etc., are related to the acquisition, they are not part of that capitalized amount, they're just expensed. they are not part of the total acquisition cost.

    #598583
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    mightyjet,

    I want to say Dunne would spend $180 in Y3, but I am not even at algebra 2 level at this point of my life.

    I see how they got the answer, 40% of 600 = 240 and 240 * 1/2. 600 – 120 = 480

    That doesn't really make sense to me because it would mean that the total dollars spent for repairs on service contracts would at the end actually be equal to the sales price of the contract. Am I right? Wrong? Profit margin = 0?

    #598584
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thanks dragnets, good to know!

    #598585
    D C
    Member

    @tootsie

    Do you have links to Aicpa 2006-2012 released question? I only have 2013.

    Thanks

    B - 80
    A - 71, 67, 77
    R - 71, 77
    F - 72, 77
    DONE!!
    Becker Self-study all the way! Did use Ninja Notes & Audio for FAR.

    #598586
    Tootsie
    Member

    @D C just type in AICPA released questions and year into Google, PDFs should pop up as links. For 2014, I think its under Bisk Supplement on Google search.

    FAR - 76
    AUD - 88!!! DONE!!!!!!!!
    BEC - 76
    REG - 77

    never, never, never give up

    #598587
    jstay
    Participant

    How did everyone do when they went through the questions a second time around when using becker? I'm scoring slightly better but not much (on some i stayed the same). i think this might be be because, during the first time around, i didn't really do progress tests. I'm testing August 28th. What else should i do? feel like i am never going to be ready and i can see myself drawing blanks on the exam already

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