[Q2] FAR Study Group 2014 - Page 344

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  • #183478
    jeff
    Keymaster

    I’ve had a few requests for April/May Study Groups…March will be here before you know it.

    In order to take an early April exam, you should begin studying…now. 🙂

    Jeff Elliott, CPA (KS) | Another71 | NINJA CPA | NINJA CMA | NINJA CPE

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  • #565709
    jrosen92770
    Participant

    I am seeing buildings, mahinery, or land improvements, constructed or produced for others or to be used internally. Fixed assets intended for sale and lease and constructed as discrete such as real estate projects. I also see to capitalize interest on special order goods on hand for sale to customers.

    BEC - 5/26/2013 75
    REG - 8/31/2013 82
    AUD - 11/24/2013 74, 2/9/2014 92
    FAR - 5/25/2014 85

    NY CPA

    #565710
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Yeah there was a question on Becker that I didn't understand for months and it was a similar question. The cash paid to total consideration (cash paid + FV traded) was greater than 25%, therefore all G/L were recognized. it's really confusing

    #565711
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I want to start crying when I see on of those questions. I have no clue. Is it 190000?

    #565712
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    The answer is 150,000- BV exchanged plus cash paid. No gain or loss recognized…I hate these kinds of questions

    #565713
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    On the page 1 it says no G/L is recognized when transaction lacks commercial substance. Page 2 says well, except for the time when the loss is recognized. Page 3, oh wait, gain is also recognized

    #565714
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I know gain is recognized proportionally- the amount of boot received vs. FV received unless its over 25%, then recognize the full gain. The whole monetary exchange thing is throwing me off though

    #565715
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I thought you recognize Gain up to the amount of Boot paid.

    Losses always recognized Immediately.

    I am confused now 🙁 – Maybe mixing REG here.

    Doing FA questions today so I think I will see my share of this as I go along…

    #565716
    Guti
    Participant

    Pardon me, losses are always recognize, but gains are only recognized when can is received on exchanges that lack commercial substance. The answer is BV plus cash paid not gain recognition 100k plus 50K=150K.

    What do you have as an answer?

    FAR-84
    AUD-
    REG-
    BEC-

    #565717
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Here's the question related to nonmonetary exchange vs monetary

    Someone want to explain to me why this question in Becker is listed as being correct?

    On January 2, Elbert's Delivery Company and Wanda's Exporters exchanged similar delivery trucks in an exchange that lacks commercial substance. Data relative to the trucks follow:

    Elbert's truck

    Original cost

    $10,000

    Accumulated depreciation as of January 2

    8,000

    Fair market value

    3,000

    Wanda's truck

    Book value

    $15,000

    In the exchange, Elbert paid Wanda cash of $10,000. Elbert's Delivery Company should record the new truck at:

    a.$13,000

    b.$12,000

    c.$8,000

    d.$10,000

    Explanation

    Choice “a” is correct. The new truck is recorded at $13,000 on Elbert's books. In this case, the transaction is considered to be a monetary exchange, because the boot ($10,000) exceeds 25% of the total consideration ($10,000 plus $3,000 fair value of the old truck transferred to Wanda). Therefore, both parties to the exchange recognize all gains and losses on the transaction. The journal entry prepared by Elbert follows

    The question asks for the Truck on Elberts books, which if I'm not mistaken, and Elbert is paying boot, then no gain on the trucks should be recognized. Why is this answer correct?

    #565718
    NJPRU
    Member

    The answer should be 150k as it's the cost given up + amount of boot paid.

    “Since the FV of the land given up was 140,000 and boot paid of $50,000 = $190,000, the boot paid/total consideration= 26%, therefore shouldn't it be a monetary exchange, and all gains/losses would be recognized?”

    Yes, true.

    AUD: DONE
    FAR: DONE
    BEC: DONE
    REG: DONE

    IM GOING TO BE A CPA!!!!!

    #565719
    NJPRU
    Member

    As for the second question – I would have selected 12k.. carry value + boot paid. I'm usually really good at these problems, but now I'm confused.

    AUD: DONE
    FAR: DONE
    BEC: DONE
    REG: DONE

    IM GOING TO BE A CPA!!!!!

    #565720
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Yeah, that's why I'm confused. If you google “Elbert” in Another71, there are a lot of people who had this same question earlier in Q2. I feel like its just a trick question by becker and its not even going to be tested

    #565721
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    The text says if the transaction lacks commercial substance you use carryover basis to measure the transaction.

    Then it says use lower of three. In the case with land BV + cash is lower of three, I wonder if the FV Madden's land was let's say 90000, would the answer be 140000?

    #565722
    Guti
    Participant

    Amanda_88, If you do a JE, the answer is 12K. I dont understand why this could be 13K if not gain is recognize.

    A deprecation 8K

    Asset 10K

    New Asset 12K

    Cash 8K

    If there was a gain of 1K then the JE will include a credit for 1K and the new asset would be 13K, but no gain should be recognized when cash is paid according to becker.

    FAR-84
    AUD-
    REG-
    BEC-

    #565723
    jrosen92770
    Participant

    Can we apply the rule below:

    No boot

    Basis of new = old basis

    Boot is paid

    Basis of new = old basis plus cash paid

    Boot is received

    Basis of new = old basis + gain (%realized) – cash received?

    BEC - 5/26/2013 75
    REG - 8/31/2013 82
    AUD - 11/24/2013 74, 2/9/2014 92
    FAR - 5/25/2014 85

    NY CPA

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