[Q2] FAR Study Group 2014 - Page 321

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  • #183478
    jeff
    Keymaster

    I’ve had a few requests for April/May Study Groups…March will be here before you know it.

    In order to take an early April exam, you should begin studying…now. 🙂

    Jeff Elliott, CPA (KS) | Another71 | NINJA CPA | NINJA CMA | NINJA CPE

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  • #565362
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thats is the part I am confused about too. Hence why I picked D.

    I would have thought they would recognize the gain when they exe the option.

    Unless they are recognizing an unrealized gain which is strange since they haven't bought the shares as yet. I dunno – the answer seems weird to me.

    #565363
    jrosen92770
    Participant

    Maybe I am confused. But it was not exercised until the subsequent year so therefore wouldnt there be an unrealized gain?

    BEC - 5/26/2013 75
    REG - 8/31/2013 82
    AUD - 11/24/2013 74, 2/9/2014 92
    FAR - 5/25/2014 85

    NY CPA

    #565364
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Sorry, the answer to the question I posted is:

    200,000 * (200/180)= 222,222

    #565365
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Correct – that is my opinion too… but the answer came back as C.

    Very puzzling

    #565366
    jrosen92770
    Participant

    I would expect it to be c since the value went up, same effect as a trading security.

    BEC - 5/26/2013 75
    REG - 8/31/2013 82
    AUD - 11/24/2013 74, 2/9/2014 92
    FAR - 5/25/2014 85

    NY CPA

    #565367
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hmmmm but why would it be realized. Like when they exe the option in jan we can't be sure that the share price will stay at 43.

    #565368
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I'll ask homework help tomorrow, somewhat intrigued

    #565369
    WANNABE_CPA
    Member

    The last question looked really scary but after knowing the answer i have just memorized the fact of this one. I have been a little lazy to study since evening, needed a break, postponed studying to tommorrow morning.

    Good night everyone, plus its Sunday- Game of thrones 🙂

    FAR : 68, 74, 83 Thank you God 🙂
    BEC : 78 (8/27) 🙂
    REG : 72 ,80 (2/25) 🙂
    AUD : 69,67, 07/23

    #565370
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Night 🙂 See you tomorrow…

    I will head to sleep soon too – just doing notes on Liabilities – refresh my brain a bit 🙂

    #565371
    CPAfit
    Participant

    I know most of you guys would be sleeping when i post this but I'll do it so I can get an explanation as soon as anyone of you guys logs in. Stockholder's equity question

    When they repurchase their own stock why do they classify it as treasury stock?

    also the difference between cost and par value method?

    #565372
    MikeHoncho
    Member

    It is classified as treasury stock because it is a contra equity account. It is simply a reduction in the number of shares outstanding. I think an example will best illustrate the differences between the two methods.

    Example:

    MikeHoncho Co. repurchases 10 shares at $5.00 (Par Value: $2.00, Originally issued for: $10.00)

    -Cost Method

    At purchase, treasury stock is debited for COST and cash is credited. *Additional paid in capital is not affected until treasury stock is resold.

    Treasury stock………50 (5*10)

    …Cash…………………….50

    -Par Value Method

    At purchase, treasury stock is debited for PAR VALUE, additional paid in capital is debited for the original amount of additional paid in capital recorded on the issuance of common stock, and cash is credited. The additional paid in capital account from treasury stock will be debited or credited depending on how much was paid to reacquire the shares. The following journal entries illustrate the amount paid to reacquire the shares ($5.00 in this example) is less than the original price ($10.00 in this example).

    Treasury stock……….20 (2*10)

    APIC (common)………80 ((10-2)*10)

    …APIC (treasury)…………..50 ((10-5)*10)

    …Cash…………………………50 (5*10)

    Done: 5/22/14

    "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut."
    - Ernest Hemingway

    #565373
    MikeHoncho
    Member

    -Par Value Method

    Now lets assume the amount paid to reacquire the shares ($15.00 in this example) is MORE than the original price ($10.00 same as previous example).

    Treasury stock……….20 (2*10)

    APIC (common)………80 ((10-2)*10)

    APIC (treasury)………50 ((15-10)*10)

    …Cash…………………………150 (15*10)

    Notice how APIC (treasury) is debited when shares are reacquired at a price greater than the amount they were originally sold for.

    Done: 5/22/14

    "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut."
    - Ernest Hemingway

    #565374
    CPAfit
    Participant

    @MIKE thanks a lot man! just to clear things up

    1- whenever we repurchase our own stock we debit Treasury stock instead of Common Stock

    2- Under cost method APIC is not affected by repurchase but it's affected by the resale of stock

    3- Under par value method APIC is affected by both repurchase as well as resale depending upon how much APIC was credited on the initial sale of stock

    #565375
    MikeHoncho
    Member

    Yep, you got it!

    Done: 5/22/14

    "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut."
    - Ernest Hemingway

    #565376
    MikeHoncho
    Member

    Also keep in mind:

    additional paid in capital (APIC) = paid in capital in excess of par

    You will likely see both names used interchangeably throughout mcqs.

    Done: 5/22/14

    "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut."
    - Ernest Hemingway

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