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September 11, 2016 at 12:46 am #833107ultrarunnerParticipant
@Kristine, I passed AUD in last October (first try) using Roger only. I used his full lecture, MCQs and CRAM. Many small mnemonics were very helpful. AUD might be the most unpredictable section. Questions in real exam were not exactly what you studied for. But Roger helped me understand and develop the conception of auditing. Anyway, I thought I bombed every single SIM, but I managed to pass. All the best.September 13, 2016 at 1:47 pm #835093GitRDone2017Participant
Roger is awesome! I love his lectures and have really started understanding Auditing principles through him. I did get Ninja Auditing book several months ago and took extensive notes from that but to be fair, I had not even looked at anything Auditing related for a couple years before that. My only hesitation about Roger is his MCQ, I do not think they are complicated enough, I have not taken the exam yet, so I will know much more after taking my first exam AUD. His jokes are the best…. especially love the palm reading one 🙂September 13, 2016 at 4:04 pm #835201slynn120Participant
I have been using Roger & love it, it really keeps me engaged in the material. His lectures are kind of fast paced I'll agree – my process is watch the lecture then read/take notes on the corresponding material in the book. I do find sometimes if I am taking notes off the lecture itself I need to pause the video and catch up, but usually while watching the lectures I just follow along in the book and highlight/take minor notes.
So far Roger has helped me pass FAR & BEC – I failed AUD, but admittedly I had a difficult time transitioning into studying AUD from FAR…and it was the height of summer, I knew I didn't put enough into it.
And is his handwriting really that bad? I guess I notice sloppiness from time to time, but nothing that I can't make out.September 14, 2016 at 9:24 am #835576LonelyRonPaulParticipant
I have used Roger exclusively for all of my studying so far. I've passed FAR, AUD, and BEC so far all on the first try. I do enjoy his teaching style and I think his lectures really shine in FAR and AUD especially. For BEC it was a lot of reading from the book during the lectures but you can't really blame him for that as there is just a ton of theory in BEC. But overall, I'm very satisfied with the program so far and I'm getting ready to start studying for REG.
Keep in mind that his lectures are FAST, so you might find yourself pausing and rewinding often. What's funny is the video player has a button to go back 5 seconds and you can also increase or decrease the playback speed of the video for people who think he is too fast. If you are a native English speaker, you should be fine but if English is a second language, you may want to view some of the sample lectures first to see if you are able to keep up. I think he also has some sort of return policy on the review program.September 14, 2016 at 11:59 am #835675Sticky NickyParticipant
@lonelyronpaul what is your method with Roger? I'm also using Roger for AUD at the moment. Typically I've been just watching lectures and doing the MCQs. Then when I'm finished with all lectures I resort to Ninja MCQs non stop. Did you actually read the book as suggested in the Roger method? seems redundant and boring to me. Please advise! Thank you!September 14, 2016 at 1:00 pm #835738LonelyRonPaulParticipant
I watch the lecture first and then read the chapter to reinforce the material. Then I will do MCQs at the end of each section. I only use Roger's MCQs and I've never used the Ninja ones before, so I'm not familiar with the functionality of Ninja. However, I have my quizzes set up to show the correct answer after answering each question so I get instant feedback and understand why I got the answer right or wrong. This was a big key for me in learning the material. I would highly suggest you use this feature in Ninja if it is available. Additionally, I did not worry too much on watching the time I spent on each question, as it just adds extra pressure and I think harms the learning process. When it comes to test day, you will know pretty quickly whether or not you know the answer for certain or not.September 14, 2016 at 2:38 pm #835801Sticky NickyParticipant
I'm living a nightmare here with all these ethic standards..snore!September 14, 2016 at 2:43 pm #835810AnonymousInactive
I've passed audit twice now (sad face, loss credit for the first one) both on first tries. The first time I used Becker and the second time I used Roger. First time I got at 77 and the second time I got an 84. I thought Roger did a much better job over Internal Control coverage and really made the assertions area easier to understand. For me, those were the most difficult parts to comprehend and conceptualize so I really took a lot from that. With Roger, I also read the book ALOT. Sometimes I'd even skip the lecture and just read. I love his videos but his book is really easy to understand and I ended up remembering phrases during the exam just by reading and re-reading (also making my own notes). MCQ and SIMs for audit in Rogers are good to practice because they give you an idea of how tricky the questions can be. On my last exam, I felt like the last two testlets I would have it narrowed down to two and just went with my gut!September 14, 2016 at 5:31 pm #835996GitRDone2017Participant
Roger does not have the best handwriting, but it sure beats the handwriting some of my bosses have! I just consider it practice to try and read it for real life work! haha! It is nice to hear that people have used Roger exclusively for Audit and passed, I am still going to use Ninja MCQ just to be safe, Hiya!September 14, 2016 at 5:39 pm #836002September 14, 2016 at 10:20 pm #836209mselaineousParticipantSeptember 15, 2016 at 10:28 am #836491Ryan – Just Another DollarParticipant
I passed using Roger's lectures and supplemented with Ninja MCQ for the couple of sections I needed to retake. I see a lot of feedback on his fast paced lecture style; I think it helped me to not zone out like I would have if it was my Tax prof. from college. There is actually a button to slow the playback speed on his lecture videos and I found that if you play him at .75x it's comparable to a normal lecture. I just used the pause button anytime I needed to catch up notes.September 16, 2016 at 1:11 am #837106pharaohParticipant
He is very energetic and can be too fast sometimes but you can pause, rewind and you have full control on the video.
I am going to follow my same strategy for FAR
What I do, I watch the lecture and try to highlight on the online book the sections that i think I will need to read or focus on.
Then I make my notes based on those highlighted sections. I try to make my notes clean and understandable because they will be my “go to” in the review stage.
Then MCQs and if I find consistent weak point, I go back to the book and add that weak area to my notes.
With FAR, I bought Ninja MCQ 2 weeks before the exam to give it a try and I would say it was a great investment and I don't know if I would have passed without Ninja MCQ, they made me feel that Roger's MCQ not hard enough.
Becker was the best remedy for my sleep apnea 🙂 I can fall asleep in less than 10 min listening to those lecturesSeptember 16, 2016 at 3:52 am #837136AnonymousInactive
Roger is probably the best out there as far as a full review course. Is Ninja a full review course? I don't even know the answer to that…I should, but I don't. It seems like so many people need some kind of supplement to pass all 4 parts (Roger Cram or Ninja or Wiley Test Bank)…I don't know why there isn't just one single review course that can get you from point A to point B and not require buying a whole bunch of additional products just to get you to a 75+. I'm using Roger right now for FAR, and since I already purchased the full course, I will use him for the other 3 as well obviously.
I have found myself going back to my Intermediate and Advanced Accounting textbooks to review quite a few things that Roger skims over. It's been 2-3 years since I took those courses and I'd forgotten some of the finer points of the game. And since FAR tests on such a microscopic level, I'm having to make sure that I don't miss anything major…or minor. I've heard quite a few people say that Roger's MCQs are lacking. That's really too bad, if it's true. He should get some harder ones in there – although I've been adequately challenged by the ones he gives.
Unless you are a genius, or unless you've been doing all this stuff forever in jobs (or just as a general accounting geek!), or both, passing all 4 parts requires a significant amount of effort. I find myself going back over things multiple times just to make sure it becomes ingrained in my blood. I write notes, I rewrite notes, I re-work problems. Over and over and over and again and again and again…and again. There are some who pass all 4 on the first try with Roger – I think that's probably not hard to do if you have the experience already. For some, the distance from Point A to Point B is small and Roger will definitely help you get there very fast. For others like me….the distance is larger, and requires far more effort.
If anyone, Roger! I talked to reps at Becker before making my decision…thus far, I think I made the right one. The other vendors – I've looked at their materials and some are really incomplete. I'll repeat what one person on here told me when I was shopping for a review course “Whichever one you choose, I don't think it's all that important, but be prepared to put your head to the grindstone and do whatever you personally need to do to pass.”