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June 5, 2010 at 11:36 pm #157835
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InactiveJust thought I would share this with everyone. Living at home this summer. My brothers friend wont shut up about how hard his 100 level Biology class is and it is getting extremely annoying. He is taking it this summer and has all the old tests too. My brother told me that he compares it to CPA thinking it is just as hard. Cells, atoms, protons, neutrons, and electrons… They just quizzed me about what was in H2O…and I said Hydrogen and Oxygen…My brothers friend said it was Hydrogen and Carbon!?!
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June 9, 2010 at 3:50 pm #294470
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ParticipantHomeschooled children in my area meet on Friday for group activities.
I too sent my son to private church schools from kindergarden through the 12th grade. The Catholic schools worked on a budget that was less than half of the government schools. However, the SAT, etc. scores from the Catholic schools were consistently higher than any of the government schools. I refused to send my son to a failed system of government education. Today my son is a mechanical engineer.
We have yet to have universal shool vouchers without government restrictions. I favor universal, unrestricted school vouchers.
We need to get state governments out of the school administration business. Let governments do what governments do best, collect taxes for the school vouchers.
June 9, 2010 at 5:47 pm #294471NJCPA2B
ParticipantUnrestricted school vouchers – Hmmm?? Maybe the state should give $7,500 directly to crack-whore mom that wants to home school her child, or an acholic father who thinks he could do a great job in education, ect..
What about if your child has a disability, or any conditon that makes him/her difficult to educate? A private school will definately NOT accept such a child.
The voucher amount$$ could only cover tuition at a handful of schools in any given area. They won't cover uniforms, transportation and extra fees. In fact, many private schools do not accept or particpate in a voucher system; they don't want to be told what and how to do things.
If it ever came into law, the voucher system will be fertile breeding ground for “fly-by-night” schools run by uncredentialed entrepreneurs, possbily with criminal records or worse!
In Tampa FL, The Islamic Academy of Tampa, received $350,000 in vouchers while their teachers were investigated by the FBI on terrorism …..see for yourself: https://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/691
What ever happened to the separation between church and state? Should Catholic and Christian schools get vouchers…NO!.
Instead of diverting resources to private schools, we should focus on reforms and solutions that strengthen public schools which benefit a greater number of students….
United we stand, Divided we fall…..
BEC=77, FAR=78, REG=73,74,80, AUD=70,69, 84 DONE!
June 9, 2010 at 6:13 pm #294472italianCPA
ParticipantDon't agree with you NJCPA2B.
Vouchers are aids to individuals, not to private schools. Then those individuals choose which schools their kids will attend, including Christian/Catholic schools.
Most public schools in the US are disgusting, like anything else public.
My wife and I just moved to LA from Manhattan and my wife is terrorized to send a kid we might have to any public school in LA…and we came from Manhattan, not quite public school heaven.
Public schools are good only in those towns with absurd property tax. If I have to pay 15/20k a year in RE tax, at that point I just might send my kids to private school. At least I pay tuition only when they are actually in school, not while I own the house.
In regards to crack-whore moms….. I'm not familiar with school vouchers as I don't have kids yet, but I would hope that they're not handed out in cash. Should work like food stamps, you can only use them at grocery stores (schools in this case). Pretty easy to crack down any abuse, since kids' attendance is pretty easy to track.
FAR - 7/26/10 - 95
AUD - 8/10/10 - 88
BEC - 8/31/10 - 88
REG - 10/15/10 - 95June 9, 2010 at 6:27 pm #29447375 CPA
ParticipantSchool vouchers would help the poor the most. Failing schools in my city are located in the poor sections of the city, and poor parents are FORCED to send their children to these “public” schools.
If we go to universal vouchers with no strings attached, we will need many more new schools. The Catholic schools in my area are filled up. The parents pay for one half the tuition, and the church pays for the other half of tuition.
June 9, 2010 at 10:51 pm #29447475 CPA
ParticipantResearch is showing that even the threat of school vouchers causes public schools to perform better.
Parents with school vouchers can continue going to their present public school, or they could switch schools. The parents, not the state or local government, decide where to send the children to school.
SCHOOL CHOICE FOR ALL! https://www.edchoice.org/schoolchoice/
June 9, 2010 at 11:09 pm #294475NJCPA2B
ParticipantOK, just by eyeballing: https://teacherportal.com/teacher-salaries-by-state
It looks like a teacher's starting salary is around $33,000 and after that it's about $45,000.
Oh wait, what was that I said? Oh yeah I said: And finance guy, I'm sure you wouldn't want to be a teacher at $28-35K a year.
Finance guy, I meant to say starting salary……
And, I'll be more careful when I review data from the “US Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics”
Good thing I'm not one of those guys that pull numbers out of their a$$….
BEC=77, FAR=78, REG=73,74,80, AUD=70,69, 84 DONE!
June 9, 2010 at 11:14 pm #294476NJCPA2B
ParticipantSure everyone should get vouchers to go to what ever schools they want…Muslim Communities, Jewish Communities, White supremacy groups ect…that way we can have a diverse educational system in the country….Maybe in the future we can be like Iraq each religious group fighting each other…..
BEC=77, FAR=78, REG=73,74,80, AUD=70,69, 84 DONE!
June 9, 2010 at 11:36 pm #294477financeguy
ParticipantIf you are going to have a career as a teacher, your starting salary would be considered an outlier in statistics. The average salary is much better data.
https://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos318.htm#oes_links
Median annual wages of kindergarten, elementary, middle, and secondary school teachers ranged from $47,100 to $51,180 in May 2008; the lowest 10 percent earned $30,970 to $34,280; the top 10 percent earned $75,190 to $80,970.
Sorry, but you are never going to convince me that that is a bad salary for a teacher, especially considering they don't work a full year, and get all kinds of other great benefits. And for the teachers who do think it is a bad salary – you are free to find a new profession any time you want, and there are thousands of people ready to take your place.
AUD - 81, BEC - 74, 80, FAR - 82, REG - 81
Done!June 10, 2010 at 12:02 am #294478italianCPA
ParticipantNJCPA2B:
Again, the vouchers aid the individuals, not religious institutions.
Then, if individuals decide to send their kids to a Catholic school, or to a yeshiva, or a madrassa (as long as they are approved by the DoE), it is protected by the US Constitution.
Freedom of religion means to be free to practice any religion or free not to practice any religion.
FAR - 7/26/10 - 95
AUD - 8/10/10 - 88
BEC - 8/31/10 - 88
REG - 10/15/10 - 95June 10, 2010 at 1:47 pm #29447975 CPA
ParticipantHigher funding of government schools (K-12) will be met with lower production.
Problem #1: Government schools (K-12) have a monopoly on schools. How does any private school compete with “free” education? Monopolies have higher prices (taxes) and lower services.
Problem #2: Government schools do not have internal control like a private business. The end result is that teachers, administrators, etc. waste a lot of time justifying everything that they do. Most money for government schools never reaches the classroom. Government schools are inefficient and ineffective.
June 10, 2010 at 1:53 pm #294480Anonymous
InactiveReading this thread and don't know what to think. First, I just enrolled my 4 yrs old daughter in public Pre-K (PS 40) in Gramercy (Manhattan). Supposedly the best one and I really liked the environment there. Our thought process (when choosing between private and public) was that untill High School most important for kids is the welcoming environment and not grades. And that spending 30K per year for private school before high school seems to be crazy.
Also, somebody mentioned that MBA's are not that good anymore because “every school has them”, so, If I want to go to Fordham – I'd be better off with MS in taxation than MBA?
You, guys, make me think:)
June 10, 2010 at 4:11 pm #29448175 CPA
ParticipantAnna
I have 3 worthless degrees, includintg a MBA. Additionally, I have a total of 250 credit hours. A MBA was originally designed for engineers, who do not have a clue about business.
If you are not a CPA, a MS in accounting would be very helpful in passing the CPA exams. If you have a CPA, a MS in taxation will help you to specialize in tax.
June 10, 2010 at 4:13 pm #29448275 CPA
ParticipantResearch is showing that home-schooled children get higher ACT scores and are better socialized than public school children.
America’s public universities have competition. A student can choose to go to any college in the United States. Our public universities are pretty good because of competition. Many foreign students come here to get a college education and they do very well. American kids do not fare nearly as well in college. 40% of the college students get an F, or drop with an F, in economics and college algebra at XXX University. The graduation rate is only 25% at XXX State University and 50% at LSU. Graduation rates are as high as 95% in some prestigious private universities..
There is no competition in the public secondary schools. The government forces parents to send their kids to a school in their neighborhood. This inflexible policy really hurts kids in the inner city. The answer is to make public schools private. A step towards competition is for the state to issue vouchers.
June 10, 2010 at 11:10 pm #294483NJCPA2B
ParticipantItalian CPA, I said to individuals, but in fact it doesn't matter……..
Please keep in mind that the founding fathers of this great nation established the separation of church and state, they knew how messed up Europe was with all of their religious wars and persecutions…..
That's why we can not have tax dollars going either directly or indirectly to any group. I know this must be hard for you to understand, but European history is why the American society is different…..
BEC=77, FAR=78, REG=73,74,80, AUD=70,69, 84 DONE!
June 10, 2010 at 11:11 pm #294484NJCPA2B
ParticipantAnna, go for the MBA it will give you a more diverse employment potential, unless you want to specialize in taxes…
BEC=77, FAR=78, REG=73,74,80, AUD=70,69, 84 DONE!
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