FAR Study Group Q2 2016 - Page 74

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  • #764766
    Just3Letters
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    I don't even understand this with the explanation. Can somebody explain how not being able to determine the beginning balance of inventory overstates net income???

    Before year 2, Droit Co. used the cash basis of accounting. As of December 31, year 2, Droit changed to the accrual basis. Droit cannot determine the beginning balance of supplies inventory. What is the effect of Droit’s inability to determine beginning supplies inventory on its year 2 accrual basis net income and December 31, year 2 accrual-basis owners’ equity?

    Year 2 Net income——–12/31/Y2 Owners' equity
    Understated—————No effect
    Understated————–Understated
    Overstated—————No effect
    Overstated—————Overstated

    This answer is incorrect. Inability to determine beginning supplies inventory would cause supplies expense to be understated and year 2 net income to be overstated. Cumulative supplies expense would be properly stated so there would be no effect on December 31, year 2 retained earnings.

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    #764767
    Spartans92
    Participant

    Just3, I hate these questions..I am confused too. Glad I did not see one like that on my exam but does not mean you would not get one. I just dont understand how they assumed inability to determine supplies means supplies expense to be understated.

    LMAO I think i actually figured out… Given this equation Beg inv + purchase – ending inv = COGS
    Let say its suppose to be 10+2-1 = 11 Now with the facts if Beg inv can't be determined 0+2-1 = 1 you understated your cost hence NI overstated. But Idk how SE is No Effect.

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    #764768
    Just3Letters
    Participant

    Spartans,

    Yeah that was my thought process too… But you would never just choose 0 for beginning inventory lol

    That seems like a very un-accounting thing to do. The conservative approach would be to assume a higher inventory right?

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    #764769
    marqzho
    Participant

    Spartans92

    SE is not affected because this year beginning is last year ending.

    In your example, year 2 is overstated the income by 10

    In year 1, it's supposed to be let say 25+10-10=25. now we don't know the ending inv and only have 25+10-0 = 35.

    We understated the income by exactly 10, same as year 2.

    So cumulative effect on SE = 0

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    #764770
    KJ
    Participant

    @ just3 I had to spend 10 minutes to think this out…lol…wont have this much time on the exam…IMO..when droit used cash basis they expensed all purchases of supplies as incurred but under accrual there will be some unused at year end carried as an asset. Those will be excluded from current year's supplies expense. When it changed to accrual method those inventories cost will have not been included in the net income.

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    Remember: "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein

    #764771
    Just3Letters
    Participant

    Thanks guys!

    There are certain questions which I just really don't want to see on exam day

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    #764772
    KJ
    Participant

    R/E will have no effect because supplies expense will be stated properly. Marqzho explanation is best for that!!

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    #764773
    KJ
    Participant

    Well its Friday..I don't feel like studying today….hope can have a productive study session…Starting GASB o GASB today 🙂

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    #764774
    Spartans92
    Participant

    Haha.. ugh, I'm embarrassed :/ thanks for the correction. I take it as a learning lesson! I was just trying to make things easier Just3 so random numbers lol

    Totally forgot the ending of year 1 becomes the beg. of the following year!

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    #764775
    KJ
    Participant

    No wonder it's called Govern(mental) accounting….

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    #764776
    Spartans92
    Participant

    Thanks for sticking around marqzho! I find FAR to be the best section because of how helpful this page is LOL. The other sections are pretty DEAD.. We got 28 pages but to be frank some are random post.. *cough* like this one. 🙂

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    #764777
    Claudia408
    Participant

    28 pages is a lot! I wonder if we are breaking Another71 bc sometimes the posts don't load properly!

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    #764778
    Spartans92
    Participant

    Wish there were “like” buttons..save time and post space. *sigh* Claudia, how you feeling for the test? Good Luck! Let us know how it goes on Monday

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    #764779
    Claudia408
    Participant

    Now that you mention it…there used to be “like” buttons… it was called HiYa! I wonder where it went?

    Not feeling it! OMG there is so much to remember!

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    #764780
    Claudia408
    Participant

    deleted, figured it out LOL

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