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November 20, 2014 at 6:24 pm #190225
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January 12, 2015 at 7:50 pm #654544
luluskyMemberHi guys, I have a question about pension plan.
In the Becker textbook, it says <gain> and losses includes the difference between the expected and actual return on plan assets when the expected return on plan assets is used to calculate pension expense.
But in below question, I do not understand why amortization of (gain ) or loss is 0.
Big books, Inc. has the following information related to its defined benefit pension plan:
Dec. 31. Year 6:
Projected benefit obligation: $1,500,000
FV of plan assets: 1,400,000
Unrecognized prior service cost: 200,000
Unrecognized net transition asset: 60,000
Dec. 31. Year 7:
Projected benefit obligation: $1,750,000
FV of plan assets: 1,670,000
Service Cost: 220,000
Assumptions:
Discount Rate: 6%
Expected return on plan assets: 8%
Big Books makes an annual pension plan contribution of $200,000. The company's employees had an average remaining service life of 20 years on 12/31/year 6. The company paid benefits of $70,000 in Year 7 and expects to pay benefits totaling $170,000 to retired employees in Year 8. Big Books has an effective tax rate of 30%. The actual return on plan assets was 10%. What would Big Books reports as U.S. GAAP net periodic pension cost on its Dec. 31, Year 7, income statement?
Answer: Service cost: $220,000
Interest cost: 90,000(1,500,000*6%)
Expected return on plan assets: (112,000) (1,400,000*8%)
Amortization of prior service cost: 10,000 (200,000/20 years)
Amortization of (gains) / losses: 0
Amortization of transition asset: (3,000) (60,000/20 years)
Net periodic pension cost: $205,000
Since expected return on plan assets is 8%, actual return on plan assets is 10%. there should be unrecognized gain of the differences between actual return and expected return.
I am kind of confused about this part.
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January 12, 2015 at 8:35 pm #654545
AnonymousInactivelulusky, you are correct but the gain occurs in Year 7 and will not be amortized as a part of net periodic pension cost until Year 8. The amortization is based on the beginning balance of the unrecognized gain/loss amount and in this case there is not a beginning balance to amortize over Year 7.
January 12, 2015 at 9:08 pm #654546
luluskyMemberCTM, thank you for your reply. I just can not understand why the amortization starts from year 8.
do you mean we can not calculate the amortization of year 7 because we do not have the beginning balance of unrecognized gain?
I think the unrecognized gain already started amortization in year 7 because we have data of Dec. 31 year 6 and we know the difference between expected return and actual return in year 7.
And if the amortization starts from year 8, what's the beginning balance then? the difference?
Sorry, I can not get this part.
January 12, 2015 at 9:16 pm #654547
rosskMemberThank you @CTM its more clear now
January 12, 2015 at 9:18 pm #654548
rosskMemberBurgess Co. purchase 35% of Egg Co's outstanding common stock on December 31 for $300,000. On that date, Egg's stockholders' equity was $600,000, and the fair value of its identifiable assets was $700,000. On December 31, what amount of goodwill should Burgess attribute to this acquisition?
$55,000
$90,000
$0
$35,000
Correct answer is 55000. I thought the answer should be 0 because Burgess is only acquiring 35% so how can the goodwill be recorded under the equity method? and there will be no consolidation since its less than 50%
January 12, 2015 at 9:59 pm #654549
AnonymousInactivelulusky, that unrealized gain is recognized in the current period, Year 7, in other comprehensive income. Then amortized going forward. We can't amortize the gain over the prior period (1/1/Year 7 through 12/31/Year 7). The unrealized gain did not occur/become known until 12/31/Year 7. This is my understanding. I also think pensions are ridiculously annoying and should be left off the exam.
January 12, 2015 at 10:00 pm #654550
AnonymousInactiveJanuary 12, 2015 at 10:13 pm #654551
AnonymousInactiverossk, initially I was thinking the same thing but goodwill is recorded under the equity method. In this case they paid 300,000 for 210,000 ownership. 35,000 of the excess paid can be attributed to the identifiable assets (100,000*35%). The remaining 55,000 would be attributable to goodwill.
January 13, 2015 at 1:01 am #654552
LivijillMember@ Determined
Regarding the earlier question, the answer was C, $180,000. So, since both of us calculated $170,000, maybe someone else can weigh in?
January 13, 2015 at 1:39 am #654553
AnonymousInactiveexcel monkey provide a good explanation. If you calculate the returns based on the number of boxes you also have to account for the COGS portion of those returns. If you simply multiply 10,000 boxes by $2 there is a $1 COGS amount that has to be taken out of this number. That is why the allowance is based off of the gross profit, not the total sales price. Not sure if that helps any.
January 13, 2015 at 2:49 am #654554
LivijillMemberThanks for pointing that out CTM! Definitely scrolled right through excel monkey's answer.
January 13, 2015 at 5:50 am #654555
AnonymousInactiveWaited almost 6 years to commit to getting my CPA.
First exam is FAR – 2/16/2015.
I'm using Becker for the most part and the audio for Ninja. I write take notes on ALL of the Becker Lectures. The material definitely sticks better. Also, if you find yourself “losing” on the homework, don't think it's cheating to have your book there and look for the answers because this will also allow you to read the information. I am truly asking the Lord to bless me with a 75 on this exam. And if I don't get it, for some reason, I'll keep trying!
January 13, 2015 at 6:33 pm #654556
Determined CPAParticipantI'm struggling with bonds, restructuring of debt, random governmental questions that seem to come out of no where, deferred revenue is a beast, and foreign currency transactions…UGH!! Worst exam out of the 4!!
A - 75
B - 78 God is good.
F - 77 Answered prayers.
R - 84! Done!!Paperwork sent - waiting for license!!
Still on a cloud and in shock. Through God, all things will happen.January 13, 2015 at 6:48 pm #654557
hunter32MemberJanuary 13, 2015 at 6:56 pm #654558
AnonymousInactiveFAR is trash. Every transaction has multiple methods of accounting for it with multiple rules for the reason behind using a particular method with exceptions to every rule and then IFRS requires you to do something completely different. And then there is governmental!
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