FAR Study Group October November 2013 - Page 56

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  • #476816
    NYCaccountant
    Participant

    I guess my review materials did not cover this as well, but my guess is that pension service cost would create a deferred tax asset because the benefits are expected to actually be paid out in the future, so it would reduce taxable income per books, but not reduce taxable income per tax return. The gain would create a tax liability because it would increase taxable income per books, but not necessarily on the tax return. Anybody feel free to correct me if i'm wrong.

    FAR - 93
    REG - 87
    BEC - 84!!!!
    AUD - 99!!!!!! CPA exam complete.

    #476753
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    FAR for the third time on Thursday! Just did a 100 question set last night and I got an 80% – wish I was getting higher but I'll take it. Just praying I don't get another 74!!!

    #476818
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    FAR for the third time on Thursday! Just did a 100 question set last night and I got an 80% – wish I was getting higher but I'll take it. Just praying I don't get another 74!!!

    #476755
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @ericnkem… interesting. Thank you for explaining that. I still don't understand the *philosophy* behind why you would go into RE rather than continuing to chip away at the original APIC, but I will do it that way if they ask me, LOL. (My curse in life is that I want to understand the “why” of everything…) And you are going to do GREAT on the exam!

    Cardea, third time's the charm! You will totally rock this on Thursday!

    #476820
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @ericnkem… interesting. Thank you for explaining that. I still don't understand the *philosophy* behind why you would go into RE rather than continuing to chip away at the original APIC, but I will do it that way if they ask me, LOL. (My curse in life is that I want to understand the “why” of everything…) And you are going to do GREAT on the exam!

    Cardea, third time's the charm! You will totally rock this on Thursday!

    #476757
    NYCaccountant
    Participant

    How are you guys studying governmental and non for profit? Reviewing the ninja notes on the train to work and realized I actually remembered a ton of governmental, and non for profit. I do not remember the small detals for each chapter prior to those though, but I have a very good grasp of the theory. I remembed that inventory error formula and then realized you don't actually need to memorize it because you can logically think it out. And I agree with @DJN Eric will do well.

    FAR - 93
    REG - 87
    BEC - 84!!!!
    AUD - 99!!!!!! CPA exam complete.

    #476822
    NYCaccountant
    Participant

    How are you guys studying governmental and non for profit? Reviewing the ninja notes on the train to work and realized I actually remembered a ton of governmental, and non for profit. I do not remember the small detals for each chapter prior to those though, but I have a very good grasp of the theory. I remembed that inventory error formula and then realized you don't actually need to memorize it because you can logically think it out. And I agree with @DJN Eric will do well.

    FAR - 93
    REG - 87
    BEC - 84!!!!
    AUD - 99!!!!!! CPA exam complete.

    #476759
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @ZSRizvi Its when you have to fund/defund the pension asset/liability account. Example if your Pension Liability Account had Beg balance of $100. And During the year PBO>FVA (your books) by $20. Then you would fund your Pension Liability Account from OCI.

    Dr OCI $20

    Cr Pension Liability Account $20

    Remember OCI is always net of tax.Lets assume your tax is 10%

    Dr Deferred Tax Asset $2

    Cr OCI $2

    Then OCI on your Incoem Statement would be $18

    Then you would close off your OCI acc. to Acc OCI in the Classified Balance Sheet. Prepaid Pension Asset works opposite.

    Somebody please confirm my thinking!!!

    #476824
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @ZSRizvi Its when you have to fund/defund the pension asset/liability account. Example if your Pension Liability Account had Beg balance of $100. And During the year PBO>FVA (your books) by $20. Then you would fund your Pension Liability Account from OCI.

    Dr OCI $20

    Cr Pension Liability Account $20

    Remember OCI is always net of tax.Lets assume your tax is 10%

    Dr Deferred Tax Asset $2

    Cr OCI $2

    Then OCI on your Incoem Statement would be $18

    Then you would close off your OCI acc. to Acc OCI in the Classified Balance Sheet. Prepaid Pension Asset works opposite.

    Somebody please confirm my thinking!!!

    #476761
    nbad311
    Member

    @NYCaccountant , I read through the 3 chapters in Gleim (Govt Accounting, Govt Reporting, NFP) and then did ALL the Gleim MCQs online. And the SIMS once through.

    THEN I DID THE WILEY MCQs (another 200 or so for these areas). Then I did the Wiley ones I got wrong, again. Wiley's governmental questions were really hard, in my opinion. Governmental and NFP are 2 areas I am trying to come back to practice at least every other day (usually with my online Gleim MCQs) because I feel like there are going to be a lot on my test (heck, if each section can be up to 12% of your grade, that's basically 1/4 your grade riding on just these 2 subjects).

    I am not relying on Ninja notes for these areas (no offense to their creator!). The NFP seemed a little lacking in the notes; governmental was better.

    I wasn't prepared for Governmental & NFP on my last exam. This time: DIFFERENT STORY

    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aJbrplwbWaU/Tdvmjr5zvaI/AAAAAAAAADc/4hheoELTlzw/s1600/152-foresight-it-never-hurts-to-be-prepared.jpg

    REG - 65, 70, 80!
    BEC - 35, 62, 79!
    AUD - 73, 75!
    FAR - 65, 73, 70, 75! DONE.

    #476826
    nbad311
    Member

    @NYCaccountant , I read through the 3 chapters in Gleim (Govt Accounting, Govt Reporting, NFP) and then did ALL the Gleim MCQs online. And the SIMS once through.

    THEN I DID THE WILEY MCQs (another 200 or so for these areas). Then I did the Wiley ones I got wrong, again. Wiley's governmental questions were really hard, in my opinion. Governmental and NFP are 2 areas I am trying to come back to practice at least every other day (usually with my online Gleim MCQs) because I feel like there are going to be a lot on my test (heck, if each section can be up to 12% of your grade, that's basically 1/4 your grade riding on just these 2 subjects).

    I am not relying on Ninja notes for these areas (no offense to their creator!). The NFP seemed a little lacking in the notes; governmental was better.

    I wasn't prepared for Governmental & NFP on my last exam. This time: DIFFERENT STORY

    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aJbrplwbWaU/Tdvmjr5zvaI/AAAAAAAAADc/4hheoELTlzw/s1600/152-foresight-it-never-hurts-to-be-prepared.jpg

    REG - 65, 70, 80!
    BEC - 35, 62, 79!
    AUD - 73, 75!
    FAR - 65, 73, 70, 75! DONE.

    #476763
    mdcpa89
    Member

    FAR on November 25th. I am so scared of the Framework, overview and Statement part of FAR (Theory). It's so hard to remember the details. I am good with calculations and financial statements. Any suggestion?

    Thank you

    #476828
    mdcpa89
    Member

    FAR on November 25th. I am so scared of the Framework, overview and Statement part of FAR (Theory). It's so hard to remember the details. I am good with calculations and financial statements. Any suggestion?

    Thank you

    #476765
    NYCaccountant
    Participant

    Hey @ Elia I think the service cost is apart of net income and the unamortized gain would be in other comprehensive income. My thinking is the service cost will be apart of the expense but will not be shown net of income tax because it's a part of continuing operations. The service cost will create a deferred tax asset because the tax man will not recognize the loss even though you do, so he will tax more of your income than you do. Example below:

    Service Costs Dr. 40,000

    Pension Liability Cr. 40,000

    Assuming a 30% tax rate

    Deferred tax asset Dr. 12,000

    Income tax – Deferred portion Cr. 12,000 This would be a part of income from continuing ops.

    The gain from a change in actuary assumption, or amendment to the plan will be recorded in other comprehensve income and if memory serves me correct can be shown net of the tax, or in aggregrate combined.

    So assuming a gain of 10,000 and 30% tax rate, I thinking it should be something like this:

    Pension Asset/ Liabilty Dr. 10,000

    Unrecognized Gain Cr. 7,000

    Deferred Tax Liability/ or income tax payable (but im leaning deferred tax liability Cr. 3,000

    Let me know if anyone disagrees. This was not convered in my review materials but i'm taking a shot at it.

    @ NBAD Thanks. Were the questions in Wiley for governmental comparable to the exam? I found them kinda of easy and simple. They did not ask you very specific questions, so i'm worried i'm going to be in for a bad surprise come Saturday.

    FAR - 93
    REG - 87
    BEC - 84!!!!
    AUD - 99!!!!!! CPA exam complete.

    #476830
    NYCaccountant
    Participant

    Hey @ Elia I think the service cost is apart of net income and the unamortized gain would be in other comprehensive income. My thinking is the service cost will be apart of the expense but will not be shown net of income tax because it's a part of continuing operations. The service cost will create a deferred tax asset because the tax man will not recognize the loss even though you do, so he will tax more of your income than you do. Example below:

    Service Costs Dr. 40,000

    Pension Liability Cr. 40,000

    Assuming a 30% tax rate

    Deferred tax asset Dr. 12,000

    Income tax – Deferred portion Cr. 12,000 This would be a part of income from continuing ops.

    The gain from a change in actuary assumption, or amendment to the plan will be recorded in other comprehensve income and if memory serves me correct can be shown net of the tax, or in aggregrate combined.

    So assuming a gain of 10,000 and 30% tax rate, I thinking it should be something like this:

    Pension Asset/ Liabilty Dr. 10,000

    Unrecognized Gain Cr. 7,000

    Deferred Tax Liability/ or income tax payable (but im leaning deferred tax liability Cr. 3,000

    Let me know if anyone disagrees. This was not convered in my review materials but i'm taking a shot at it.

    @ NBAD Thanks. Were the questions in Wiley for governmental comparable to the exam? I found them kinda of easy and simple. They did not ask you very specific questions, so i'm worried i'm going to be in for a bad surprise come Saturday.

    FAR - 93
    REG - 87
    BEC - 84!!!!
    AUD - 99!!!!!! CPA exam complete.

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