FAR Study Group October November 2013 - Page 53

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  • #476706
    NYCaccountant
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    I wonder would it be wrong on the exam though? I guess it makes sense to keep them separate.

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    #476772
    NYCaccountant
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    I wonder would it be wrong on the exam though? I guess it makes sense to keep them separate.

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    #476708
    ZSRizvi
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    I have a question regarding nonmonetary exchanges.

    If an exchange lacks commercial substance, and inventory is traded for inventory, and boot is paid –> No gain recognized. I understand because it facilitates “the sale.”

    However, what if inventory is traded for inventory and cash is received…would you still not record a gain? If you were not to record a gain, is it because you won't really have an asset on hand since the inventory will be sold?

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    #476774
    ZSRizvi
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    I have a question regarding nonmonetary exchanges.

    If an exchange lacks commercial substance, and inventory is traded for inventory, and boot is paid –> No gain recognized. I understand because it facilitates “the sale.”

    However, what if inventory is traded for inventory and cash is received…would you still not record a gain? If you were not to record a gain, is it because you won't really have an asset on hand since the inventory will be sold?

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    #476711
    Anonymous
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    @NYC, I think the deferred tax assets/liabilities should be separate because those will reverse in the future.

    #476776
    Anonymous
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    @NYC, I think the deferred tax assets/liabilities should be separate because those will reverse in the future.

    #476713
    NYCaccountant
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    ZSR when cash is received, you record the asset received at the book value of the asset given up – the boot received. You then recognized a portion of the gain as described in the formula below: This is assuming the transaction lacks commercial substance.

    Boot/ (Boot + Fair value of asset received) * Gain on transaction= gain on transaction.

    Boot + Fair value is the amount that is compared to the carrying amount of the asset given up.

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    #476778
    NYCaccountant
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    ZSR when cash is received, you record the asset received at the book value of the asset given up – the boot received. You then recognized a portion of the gain as described in the formula below: This is assuming the transaction lacks commercial substance.

    Boot/ (Boot + Fair value of asset received) * Gain on transaction= gain on transaction.

    Boot + Fair value is the amount that is compared to the carrying amount of the asset given up.

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    #476715
    ZSRizvi
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    @NYC

    I understand those rules; I was asking in particular about inventory though because in Becker it says that inventory traded is just to “facilitate the sale.” And if boot is paid when inventory, specifically, is traded and because it's traded to facilitate the sale, no gain is recorded.

    So, I was wondering if you still wouldn't recognize a gain even if boot was received since it's inventory?

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    #476780
    ZSRizvi
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    @NYC

    I understand those rules; I was asking in particular about inventory though because in Becker it says that inventory traded is just to “facilitate the sale.” And if boot is paid when inventory, specifically, is traded and because it's traded to facilitate the sale, no gain is recorded.

    So, I was wondering if you still wouldn't recognize a gain even if boot was received since it's inventory?

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    #476717
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    I'm a little confused here…when something is issed at 103, doesn't that mean it's at a premium? Must you record a discount here for it to balance because they are issued with the stock warrants?

    On January 1, 2011, HTL Manufacturers issued $100 million of 8% debentures due 2018 at 103 (103% of face value). Accompanying each $1,000 bond were 20 warrants. Each warrant permitted the holder to buy one share of no par common stock at $25 per share. Shortly after issuance, the warrants were listed on the stock exchange at $3 per warrant.

    ($ in millions)

    dr Cash (103% × $100 million) ………………………………….103

    dr Discount on bonds payable (difference) …………………….3

    cr Bonds payable (face amount) ………………………………100

    cr Equity—stock warrants* …………………………………………6

    #476782
    Anonymous
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    I'm a little confused here…when something is issed at 103, doesn't that mean it's at a premium? Must you record a discount here for it to balance because they are issued with the stock warrants?

    On January 1, 2011, HTL Manufacturers issued $100 million of 8% debentures due 2018 at 103 (103% of face value). Accompanying each $1,000 bond were 20 warrants. Each warrant permitted the holder to buy one share of no par common stock at $25 per share. Shortly after issuance, the warrants were listed on the stock exchange at $3 per warrant.

    ($ in millions)

    dr Cash (103% × $100 million) ………………………………….103

    dr Discount on bonds payable (difference) …………………….3

    cr Bonds payable (face amount) ………………………………100

    cr Equity—stock warrants* …………………………………………6

    #476719
    NYCaccountant
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    @ Dante you have to give some recognition to the detachable warrants. The purchaser of the bond basically bought a bond from you and warrants. Entry below:

    Cash Dr. 103,000,000

    Bonds Payable Cr. 100,000,0000

    Discount on Bonds Dr. 3,000,000

    Additional paind in capital – Warrants Cr. 6,000,000

    @ ZSR I think it's the same rules. I'm going to check when I get home, but I *swear* Wiley gave an example dealing with inventory.

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    #476784
    NYCaccountant
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    @ Dante you have to give some recognition to the detachable warrants. The purchaser of the bond basically bought a bond from you and warrants. Entry below:

    Cash Dr. 103,000,000

    Bonds Payable Cr. 100,000,0000

    Discount on Bonds Dr. 3,000,000

    Additional paind in capital – Warrants Cr. 6,000,000

    @ ZSR I think it's the same rules. I'm going to check when I get home, but I *swear* Wiley gave an example dealing with inventory.

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    #476721
    oblio
    Member

    Study tidbit from Ninja Flashcard:

    Inventory effect on Retained earnings;

    Ending inventory over/under = Retained earnings over/under

    Beginning inventory over/under = no effect on retained earnings

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