FAR Study Group October November 2013 - Page 52

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  • #476756
    Anonymous
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    @DJN – Do you think it is necessary to take the final test included in Becker? I'm scheduled to take FAR this week and was wondering whether I should just review my notes.

    Thank you

    #476692
    NYCaccountant
    Participant

    Just to confirm – The journal entry to record prior service is:

    Unrecognize Pension expense OCI Dr. 40,000

    Pension Iiability Balance Sheet? Cr. 40,000

    OCI would have a negative balance after this entry.

    Then when we amortize:

    Pension expense Dr. 20,000

    Unrecognize Pension expense OCI Cr 20,000

    OCI would increase by 20,000 after this entry.

    Just need some confirmation on the exact entry.

    Thanks in advance.

    FAR - 93
    REG - 87
    BEC - 84!!!!
    AUD - 99!!!!!! CPA exam complete.

    #476758
    NYCaccountant
    Participant

    Just to confirm – The journal entry to record prior service is:

    Unrecognize Pension expense OCI Dr. 40,000

    Pension Iiability Balance Sheet? Cr. 40,000

    OCI would have a negative balance after this entry.

    Then when we amortize:

    Pension expense Dr. 20,000

    Unrecognize Pension expense OCI Cr 20,000

    OCI would increase by 20,000 after this entry.

    Just need some confirmation on the exact entry.

    Thanks in advance.

    FAR - 93
    REG - 87
    BEC - 84!!!!
    AUD - 99!!!!!! CPA exam complete.

    #476694
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @ericnkem – I would take the exam just because every time I've taken it (them actually – I think there are 2 for each section?) I've come across some little fact that I didn't know before. Also, in my experience, the first of the two practice tests is harder than the second one, so don't freak out if you don't do as well as you hope on the first one.

    #476760
    Anonymous
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    @ericnkem – I would take the exam just because every time I've taken it (them actually – I think there are 2 for each section?) I've come across some little fact that I didn't know before. Also, in my experience, the first of the two practice tests is harder than the second one, so don't freak out if you don't do as well as you hope on the first one.

    #476696
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @DJN- Thank you for your insight.

    @NYC – The J/E is right but do not forget to transfer the deferred tax to current income.

    #476762
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @DJN- Thank you for your insight.

    @NYC – The J/E is right but do not forget to transfer the deferred tax to current income.

    #476698
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @NYC, from the Becker book:

    Prior service cost and pension losses decrease the funded status of the pension plan and are recorded with the following journal entry in the period incurred:

    DR: OCI

    CR: Pension benefit asset/liability

    A deferred tax asset may also be recognized because prior service cost and pension losses increase the PBO and therefore increase the total contributions that the company must make to fund the pension plan. When these contributions are made (generally in a future period given that most defined benefit plans are underfunded) the company will take a tax deduction for the contribution, decreasing future taxes. The related deferred tax benefit must be recognized in OCI as an offset to the unrecognized prior service cost or pension loss. All elements of OCI are reported net of tax.

    Journal entry to record the deferred tax asset:

    DR: Deferred tax asset

    CR: Deferred tax benefit – OCI

    Amortization to Pension Expense – when prior service cost, pension losses, and any remaining transition obligation are amortized, they are reclassified out of AOCI and recognized as a component of pension expense.

    DR: Net periodic pension cost

    CR: OCI

    The related deferred tax benefit must be removed from AOCI and recorded in the income statement.

    DR: Deferred tax benefit – OCI

    CR: Deferred tax benefit – Income Statement

    (I typed this up super fast because I have a meeting, so please forgive any typos — but I double checked the J/Es to make sure I didn't make any mistakes on them.)

    #476764
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @NYC, from the Becker book:

    Prior service cost and pension losses decrease the funded status of the pension plan and are recorded with the following journal entry in the period incurred:

    DR: OCI

    CR: Pension benefit asset/liability

    A deferred tax asset may also be recognized because prior service cost and pension losses increase the PBO and therefore increase the total contributions that the company must make to fund the pension plan. When these contributions are made (generally in a future period given that most defined benefit plans are underfunded) the company will take a tax deduction for the contribution, decreasing future taxes. The related deferred tax benefit must be recognized in OCI as an offset to the unrecognized prior service cost or pension loss. All elements of OCI are reported net of tax.

    Journal entry to record the deferred tax asset:

    DR: Deferred tax asset

    CR: Deferred tax benefit – OCI

    Amortization to Pension Expense – when prior service cost, pension losses, and any remaining transition obligation are amortized, they are reclassified out of AOCI and recognized as a component of pension expense.

    DR: Net periodic pension cost

    CR: OCI

    The related deferred tax benefit must be removed from AOCI and recorded in the income statement.

    DR: Deferred tax benefit – OCI

    CR: Deferred tax benefit – Income Statement

    (I typed this up super fast because I have a meeting, so please forgive any typos — but I double checked the J/Es to make sure I didn't make any mistakes on them.)

    #476700
    NYCaccountant
    Participant

    This is what sucks because my review materials never even mentioned transfering deferred taxes to current income. Anyway, I am assuming I would record the prior service net of income tax.

    Unrecognize Pension expense OCI Dr 35,000 Net of tax

    Deferred tax asset Dr. 5,000

    Pension Iiability Balance Sheet? Cr. 40,000

    Then on transfer.

    Pension expense Dr. 40,000

    Unrecognize Pension expense OCI Cr. 35,000

    Deferred tax benefit Cr. 5,000

    I just netted the deferred tax out of the original 40k number and am leaving my deferred tax asset on my balance sheet to reduce future taxable income, so the expense remains the same in both situations net of income taxes. Is this correct? My review materials did not cover this at all. Matter fact, I don't ever remember seeing a question on this! Thanks for your help Eric.

    FAR - 93
    REG - 87
    BEC - 84!!!!
    AUD - 99!!!!!! CPA exam complete.

    #476766
    NYCaccountant
    Participant

    This is what sucks because my review materials never even mentioned transfering deferred taxes to current income. Anyway, I am assuming I would record the prior service net of income tax.

    Unrecognize Pension expense OCI Dr 35,000 Net of tax

    Deferred tax asset Dr. 5,000

    Pension Iiability Balance Sheet? Cr. 40,000

    Then on transfer.

    Pension expense Dr. 40,000

    Unrecognize Pension expense OCI Cr. 35,000

    Deferred tax benefit Cr. 5,000

    I just netted the deferred tax out of the original 40k number and am leaving my deferred tax asset on my balance sheet to reduce future taxable income, so the expense remains the same in both situations net of income taxes. Is this correct? My review materials did not cover this at all. Matter fact, I don't ever remember seeing a question on this! Thanks for your help Eric.

    FAR - 93
    REG - 87
    BEC - 84!!!!
    AUD - 99!!!!!! CPA exam complete.

    #476702
    NYCaccountant
    Participant

    Sorry, I posted it differently, but I think the result would be the same. Thanks DJN and Erik on this.

    FAR - 93
    REG - 87
    BEC - 84!!!!
    AUD - 99!!!!!! CPA exam complete.

    #476768
    NYCaccountant
    Participant

    Sorry, I posted it differently, but I think the result would be the same. Thanks DJN and Erik on this.

    FAR - 93
    REG - 87
    BEC - 84!!!!
    AUD - 99!!!!!! CPA exam complete.

    #476704
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @NYC, when I did the simulation on this I netted the tax out too, but the solution they gave had it separated out.

    #476770
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @NYC, when I did the simulation on this I netted the tax out too, but the solution they gave had it separated out.

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