FAR Study Group October November 2013 - Page 113

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  • #477632
    Anonymous
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    Im confused on notes and bonds,

    So I know that principal payments reduce note payable but do they reduce carrying value as well? I thought carrying value is only affected by discount and premium amortization, right?

    #477699
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Im confused on notes and bonds,

    So I know that principal payments reduce note payable but do they reduce carrying value as well? I thought carrying value is only affected by discount and premium amortization, right?

    #477634
    Anonymous
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    @cpa066729:

    So…here's my go at an explanation:

    when you have an annuity due situation, the first payment towards the bond is 100% reduction in principal or face and thus also the CV because the CV = face + premium or – discount. Every other payment thereafter is partial interest expense and partial amortization of premium or discount, which also affects the CV.

    I hope this helps 🙂

    #477701
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @cpa066729:

    So…here's my go at an explanation:

    when you have an annuity due situation, the first payment towards the bond is 100% reduction in principal or face and thus also the CV because the CV = face + premium or – discount. Every other payment thereafter is partial interest expense and partial amortization of premium or discount, which also affects the CV.

    I hope this helps 🙂

    #477636
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Oh thanks, I had some questions in my practice where they had annual principal payments in addition to interest. So for those principal payment, they only affect the note payable and the discount and premium amortization are added/subtracted from the carrying book value?

    #477703
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Oh thanks, I had some questions in my practice where they had annual principal payments in addition to interest. So for those principal payment, they only affect the note payable and the discount and premium amortization are added/subtracted from the carrying book value?

    #477638
    jeff
    Keymaster
    #477705
    jeff
    Keymaster
    #477640
    kels417
    Member

    Hey guys, quick question on transactions lacking commercial substance that contain boot.

    Becker has me a bit confused. In order to determine if boot is less than or greater than 25% of total consideration, do you calculate boot over the fv of asset given? Or boot over the fv of asset received? I ask because I thought it was fv boot received, however in the book (p F2-39 from 2012) they show boots percentage being calculated as (2500/12000) which is the fv of the machine given. However, in the explanation on the previous page of recognizing a gain proportionally, it says “…is less than 25% of the total considerations received…”

    Any help? Is it in fact fv of asset given?

    Thanks so much! Exam is Thursday. So super nervous!

    Illinois
    Becker self study | Becker flashcards | Gleim | self written notes | WTB

    AUD - 74, 75 Passed! (Expires 1/2/2014)
    BEC - 78 Passed! (Expires 2/6/2014)
    REG - 70, 70, 72, 74, 76 Passed!!
    FAR - 72, 66, 69, 67

    #477707
    kels417
    Member

    Hey guys, quick question on transactions lacking commercial substance that contain boot.

    Becker has me a bit confused. In order to determine if boot is less than or greater than 25% of total consideration, do you calculate boot over the fv of asset given? Or boot over the fv of asset received? I ask because I thought it was fv boot received, however in the book (p F2-39 from 2012) they show boots percentage being calculated as (2500/12000) which is the fv of the machine given. However, in the explanation on the previous page of recognizing a gain proportionally, it says “…is less than 25% of the total considerations received…”

    Any help? Is it in fact fv of asset given?

    Thanks so much! Exam is Thursday. So super nervous!

    Illinois
    Becker self study | Becker flashcards | Gleim | self written notes | WTB

    AUD - 74, 75 Passed! (Expires 1/2/2014)
    BEC - 78 Passed! (Expires 2/6/2014)
    REG - 70, 70, 72, 74, 76 Passed!!
    FAR - 72, 66, 69, 67

    #477642
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @kels417: the FV of the assets given = FV assets received

    #477709
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @kels417: the FV of the assets given = FV assets received

    #477644
    kels417
    Member

    @cpa4birthdaypresent – ahhhh! Yes! I do remember reading that somewhere as well. Thank you for the reminder!

    Illinois
    Becker self study | Becker flashcards | Gleim | self written notes | WTB

    AUD - 74, 75 Passed! (Expires 1/2/2014)
    BEC - 78 Passed! (Expires 2/6/2014)
    REG - 70, 70, 72, 74, 76 Passed!!
    FAR - 72, 66, 69, 67

    #477711
    kels417
    Member

    @cpa4birthdaypresent – ahhhh! Yes! I do remember reading that somewhere as well. Thank you for the reminder!

    Illinois
    Becker self study | Becker flashcards | Gleim | self written notes | WTB

    AUD - 74, 75 Passed! (Expires 1/2/2014)
    BEC - 78 Passed! (Expires 2/6/2014)
    REG - 70, 70, 72, 74, 76 Passed!!
    FAR - 72, 66, 69, 67

    #477646
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @kels417:

    my exam experience has been posted in the respective thread…good luck with your exam 🙂

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