FAR Study Group October November 2013 - Page 10

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  • #476129
    Monir
    Member

    Same here man ! It's so confusing

    #476059
    NYCaccountant
    Participant

    @Moni The bond is only worth 285,000 at year end. Bond discounts are essentially extra interest expense that will be amortized to earnings either using the effective interest rate method, or straight line method over the life of the bond. Remember, we only book interest expense when incurred, and in this case the interest expense has not been incurred yet because it's unamortized. Say we sold bonds at a discount of 285,000 and the maturity value was 300,000. The client only paid 285,000 for a 300,000 bond, and the 15k difference represents extra interest expense, which we will book over the course of the bonds life, and then eventually pay to the client at the very end. Every time we amortize a piece of the discount, the balance we owe to the client grows, so long story short, we only technically owe the client 285,000 at year end lol.

    To follow up, the initial principle is 300,000, but we took away a portion of that and will instead count it as extra interest expense over the bonds life. The client will get the 300,000 at the maturity date, but technically because we discounted it, 285,000 of the 300,000 would be principle, and 15,000 would be interest.

    And remember interest expense is only recognized on the balance sheet when incurred, so we only owe the discounted (285,000) principle at this point.

    FAR - 93
    REG - 87
    BEC - 84!!!!
    AUD - 99!!!!!! CPA exam complete.

    #476131
    NYCaccountant
    Participant

    @Moni The bond is only worth 285,000 at year end. Bond discounts are essentially extra interest expense that will be amortized to earnings either using the effective interest rate method, or straight line method over the life of the bond. Remember, we only book interest expense when incurred, and in this case the interest expense has not been incurred yet because it's unamortized. Say we sold bonds at a discount of 285,000 and the maturity value was 300,000. The client only paid 285,000 for a 300,000 bond, and the 15k difference represents extra interest expense, which we will book over the course of the bonds life, and then eventually pay to the client at the very end. Every time we amortize a piece of the discount, the balance we owe to the client grows, so long story short, we only technically owe the client 285,000 at year end lol.

    To follow up, the initial principle is 300,000, but we took away a portion of that and will instead count it as extra interest expense over the bonds life. The client will get the 300,000 at the maturity date, but technically because we discounted it, 285,000 of the 300,000 would be principle, and 15,000 would be interest.

    And remember interest expense is only recognized on the balance sheet when incurred, so we only owe the discounted (285,000) principle at this point.

    FAR - 93
    REG - 87
    BEC - 84!!!!
    AUD - 99!!!!!! CPA exam complete.

    #476061
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    The discount on bonds payable is a contra account. The interest hasn't been incurred yet either.

    #476133
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    The discount on bonds payable is a contra account. The interest hasn't been incurred yet either.

    #476063
    lauren14xox
    Member

    Does anyone else hate the people who pass all four on the first try. I swear I used to be smart…

    Btw this website is such a therapeutic help !

    #476135
    lauren14xox
    Member

    Does anyone else hate the people who pass all four on the first try. I swear I used to be smart…

    Btw this website is such a therapeutic help !

    #476065
    Monir
    Member

    @NYCaccountant & dante042104, Thank you !! Make sense. I am on F4. I guess it make more once I study the bond discount and premium it will make more sense.

    #476137
    Monir
    Member

    @NYCaccountant & dante042104, Thank you !! Make sense. I am on F4. I guess it make more once I study the bond discount and premium it will make more sense.

    #476067
    joycehuang
    Member

    has anyone realized that the exam time has been changed into 4 and half hours?? I think during the summer, it had been 4 hours. So right now, since the time has been changed, I am wondering will there be more questions for us? or just the AICPA adds more time?

    #476139
    joycehuang
    Member

    has anyone realized that the exam time has been changed into 4 and half hours?? I think during the summer, it had been 4 hours. So right now, since the time has been changed, I am wondering will there be more questions for us? or just the AICPA adds more time?

    #476069
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @joyce the extra half hour is for getting logged in and the survey at the end. The test itself still only allots 4 hours. That is not new. We've always had that extra half hour there.

    #476141
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @joyce the extra half hour is for getting logged in and the survey at the end. The test itself still only allots 4 hours. That is not new. We've always had that extra half hour there.

    #476071
    Gabe
    Participant

    @oilgaslb Right now I am on F2 of Becker and weaving Ninja notes throughout. How about you?

    CPA, CFE
    CISA- Experience will be completed by August 2016

    #476143
    Gabe
    Participant

    @oilgaslb Right now I am on F2 of Becker and weaving Ninja notes throughout. How about you?

    CPA, CFE
    CISA- Experience will be completed by August 2016

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