[Q2] FAR Study Group 2014 - Page 408

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    jeff
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    I’ve had a few requests for April/May Study Groups…March will be here before you know it.

    In order to take an early April exam, you should begin studying…now. 🙂

    Jeff Elliott, CPA (KS) | Another71 | NINJA CPA | NINJA CMA | NINJA CPE

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  • #566674
    Anonymous
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    So I think the Starting JE should be this and I think its here I made the mistake but not sure what I did incorrect..

    Jan 1 Y1

    DR Cash 940,000

    DR Discount 10,000

    DR BIC 50,000

    CR BP ……1,000,000

    Ahhh – see Stoleway and Anna posted it.. My BIC treatment wasn't correct.. OK got it!

    #566675
    Anonymous
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    @kenada, i think your original j/e is correct, ( or at least becker seems to say so in the bonds chapter).

    #566676
    Anonymous
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    Under GAAP – Bond Issue Costs do not reduce the Carrying Value of the investment like they do in IFRS. think of them as separate, and in my journal entries for Bond Issue costs, I do 2 separate entries (For GAAP), just to get it in my head that under GAAP, bond issue costs do not affect the amt of the discount.

    DR – Cash ……………………….940,000

    DR – Discount …………………….60,000

    CR – Bonds Payable


    1,000,000

    DR: Bond Issue Cost……………..50,000

    CR: Cash – BIC ……………………………….50,000

    Disclaimer – I don't think this is correct/incorrect, just how my brain thinks about it.

    #566677
    Anonymous
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    @ allie, if u look at becker page f5-37. the example doesnt include any credit to cash for bic….

    #566678
    Anonymous
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    but it does decrease the discount

    #566679
    Anonymous
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    Can someone explain why the expected return on plan assets is used in this equation rather than the actual return?

    https://puu.sh/92uXk.png

    Isn't the actual return the only portion that actually impacts the funded status (plan assets)? Isn't the expected return something that impacts OCI and pension expense?

    For example, taking this from my Wiley textbook.

    If expected return was 13,410, actual was 12,000, leaving an unexpected loss of 1,410 then:

    Actual Return:

    Dr. Plan Assets 12,000

    Cr. Pension expense 12,000

    Unexpected loss:

    Dr. OCI 1,410

    Cr. Pension expense 1,410

    #566680
    Anonymous
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    Shoot you're right. I am messing up. The next page shows IFRS and shows the bond issue costs increasing the discount too…

    #566681
    Anonymous
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    ya im also having some issues with these bic questions, especially when it comes to IFRS..

    #566682
    Anonymous
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    Oh but I think what they are doing is netting the cash entry – see how on page 37, the Cash Debit is for $930,000 v. 980,000? So they are netting the CR: of Cash related to the bond issue cost with the DR: of Cash related to the issuance (980,000)

    So they just combined my two separate entries into one.

    #566683
    Anonymous
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    hmm the way i understood it was that if the questions says they are issuing bonds for 980 with a 50 BIC, then its not really 980 for the bond issuance, really they are issuing the bond at 930 PLUS a separate cost that is amortized using S/L. so whenever i see a question like that i always start by subtracting the BIC from the amount recieved

    #566684
    Anonymous
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    in your J/E”s u had recorded the discount at 60000 tho

    #566685
    Anonymous
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    The JE's I made were for the multiple choice problem you originally posted. If I were to make JE's in my head for the Becker Example, it would look like —

    DR: Cash……………980

    DR: Discount………..20

    CR:.Bonds Payable………..1000

    DR: Bond Issue Cost……50

    CR: Cash – BIC ………………….50

    So overall – as the example in Becker shows:

    DR: Cash ………….930

    DR: Discount……….20

    DR: BIC………………50

    CR: Bonds Payable……………1000

    Again, this is just how my brain thinks through BIC 🙂

    #566686
    Anonymous
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    ahhh ya that does make sense !

    #566687

    Nota quitter…here you go

    Because the first goods acquired are not impacted by subsequent purchases, FIFO systems always arrive at the same cost of goods sold and inventory figures regardless of whether a perpetual or a periodic system is in use (thus, answer A is true but B is not). In a periodic LIFO system, cost of goods sold is not determined until the very end of the period so that all purchases made last (at the end of the year) are assigned to cost of goods sold (answer C is true). Finally, in a period of cost inflation, as is seen here, LIFO provides lower figures for the inventory account because the most recent purchases are assigned to cost of goods sold (answer D is true)

    BEC Passed
    FAR Passed
    AUD Passed
    REG Passed

    #566688
    Anonymous
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    ahhhhh I don't know if I should quit at some point or just keep going. My test is at 9am tomorrow. Ive done a million progress tests all day and have been getting repeat answers. I am going to eat dinner, go through my flash cards, and call it a night?

    AHH IM SO NERVOUS

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