FAR Study Group – Q1 2018 - Page 23

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  • #1726825
    Fratty Redneck
    Participant

    I happened to see a SIM on a “topic that was not marked as Analysis” on my exam. I'm trying not to disclose too much information, but I am hoping that was pre-test, because I was pretty lost.

    REG 75 2/10/17

    AUD 77 5/31/17

    BEC 54, 73, 72, 93 12/8/17

    FAR 59, 86 2/26/18

    Licensed CPA and IRS EA

    #1726858
    SONA
    Participant

    Guys Correct me if I am wrong for the calculation of Net Patient Service Revenue:
    Net patient service charges calculation will not include “Charity and Bad debt” Right?
    This is NINJA question: and it included both charity (which is correct) but Bad debt? Why?
    According to Roger Book: Bad debt exp = operating exp.

    Hospital, Inc., a not-for-profit entity with no governmental affiliation, reported the following in its accounts for the current year ended December 31:

    Gross patient service revenue from all services provided
    at the established billing rates of the hospital (note
    that this figure includes charity care of $25,000) $775,000
    Provision for bad debts 15,000
    Difference between established billing rates and fees
    negotiated with third-party payers (contractual adjustments) 70,000

    What amount would the hospital report as net patient service revenue in its statement of operations for the current year ended December 31?

    A.
    $665,000

    Incorrect B.
    $680,000

    C.
    $705,000

    D.
    $735,000

    EXPLANATION: FASB Accounting Standards Update (ASU) 2011-07 requires that nongovernmental not-for-profit hospitals record bad debt as a reduction of gross patient service revenue to arrive at net patient service revenue.

    Charity care is also a reduction of gross patient revenue, as well as third-party contractual adjustments; therefore, the hospital should record $665,000 ($775,000 – $25,000 – $15,000 – $70,000) as net patient revenue.

    AUD :56, 72, 77!
    FAR : 74, 77!
    BEC : 72, 75!
    REG : 72, 81!
    #1726862
    SONA
    Participant

    @Meanjoe Totally agree. Thanks a bunch.

    AUD :56, 72, 77!
    FAR : 74, 77!
    BEC : 72, 75!
    REG : 72, 81!
    #1726895
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    What are the 6 characteristics in financial reporting for government?

    #1726903
    shawn0216
    Participant

    @Amor – understandability, reliability, relevance, timeliness, consistency, comparability

    #1726933
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @shawn0216
    Perfect!

    #1727110
    Pam
    Participant

    I'm running out of steam, losing interest, getting irritated. Ideally I want to have an average score of 80% in each section of the MCQ… I'm at like 50%!! I have this evening (realistically with 2 kids, a couple hours) and then all day tomorrow and Friday morning.
    How much more time should I spend on MCQs vs SIMs (which I haven't hit yet)? I was hoping to be more like 70-75% on MCQ's by the end of the day today and SIMs all day tomorrow, then back to MCQ Friday morning… but not sure that's going to happen.

    UGH… I just need to recover from a 67 to a 75!!

    #1727426
    SONA
    Participant

    WHY MY ANSWER IS INCORRECT. LOOK AT THE EXPLANATION. NINJA QUES.

    Expenditures of a governmental unit for insurance extending over more than one accounting period:

    Incorrect A.
    must be accounted for as expenditures of the period of acquisition.

    B.
    must be accounted for as expenditures of the periods subsequent to acquisition.

    C.
    must be allocated between or among accounting periods.

    D.
    may be allocated between or among accounting periods or may be accounted for as expenditures of the period of acquisition.

    You answered A. The correct answer is D.

    GASB 1600.127.b states: “Expenditures for insurance and similar services (prepaid items) extending over more than one accounting period need not be allocated between or among accounting periods, but may be accounted for as expenditures of the period of acquisition.”

    AUD :56, 72, 77!
    FAR : 74, 77!
    BEC : 72, 75!
    REG : 72, 81!
    #1727435
    SONA
    Participant

    @pam I was in same situation as you on Monday and averaging 60% I decided that I have to move the date from 9th March to 3rd April, becoz I anticipated that FAILURE will be the result.

    AUD :56, 72, 77!
    FAR : 74, 77!
    BEC : 72, 75!
    REG : 72, 81!
    #1727438
    SONA
    Participant

    @Amor If Fairness will be one of the choice with these characteristics DO NOT PICK that choice. It's not one of the characteristics. I know right now we all know but in exam personally get confused 😉

    AUD :56, 72, 77!
    FAR : 74, 77!
    BEC : 72, 75!
    REG : 72, 81!
    #1727459
    shawn0216
    Participant

    Need someone's opinion/advice.

    I'm scheduled to take FAR this Friday. This will be my first attempt at a section. I do not feel prepared at all. Should I take the exam anyway to get a feel for it or reschedule (if I'm not too late to do so)?

    #1727734
    MeanJoe
    Participant

    @shawn0216

    Take it. All you have to lose is your NTS cost.

    BEC - Passed September 2016

    AUD - Passed December 2016

    REG - Passed May 2017

    FAR - Passed March 2018

    #1727786
    Reema
    Participant

    Reg score released

    AUD - 86
    BEC - 88
    FAR - 88
    REG - 84
    B - 88

    A - 86

    R - 84

    F - 88

    Roger + Ninja MCQs

    #1727789
    Reema
    Participant

    Sorry wrong group

    AUD - 86
    BEC - 88
    FAR - 88
    REG - 84
    B - 88

    A - 86

    R - 84

    F - 88

    Roger + Ninja MCQs

    #1727867
    MeanJoe
    Participant

    @sona

    It would be similar to the purchase method or the consumption method in regard to inventory of supplies in governmental accounting.

    You could either record the entire multi year insurance plan by:
    (Purchase Method) – one period
    DR: Expenditure – Insurance
    CR: Cash or A/P

    OR

    (Consumption Method) – over multiple periods
    DR:Prepaid Insurance
    CR: Cash or A/P

    Then as you use the insurance over time
    DR: Expenditure – Insurance
    CR: Prepaid Insurance

    At least that is how I interpret it as.

    BEC - Passed September 2016

    AUD - Passed December 2016

    REG - Passed May 2017

    FAR - Passed March 2018

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