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September 14, 2016 at 8:41 pm #836134
jeffKeymasterWelcome to the Q4 2016 CPA Exam Study Group for AUD.
If this is your first post in the study group – please post your target exam date (just the time frame to preserve your anonymity), and your past history with this exam (optional, of course).
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October 24, 2016 at 9:33 pm #1305244
Spartans92ParticipantHey All, I will be joining this group once again for my retake in a few days! So happy to be back here (for real). Switching from REG to AUD is prob one of the best feeling because I could easily do 100 Questions in 2 hours compared to REG. Hopefully, this will be my second and last time with AUD!
Good luck to everyone else!
For those that use Ninja for the sims are there any stuff related to FAR? For instance, income statement and knowing how the transaction affects them like overstating AR increase Asset understating Liabilities.. type of questions? I ask because I find myself very weak in this area and we all know it is not uncommon for FAR topics to show up as a SIM
BEC- PASS
October 25, 2016 at 6:29 am #1305409
cmcewan01ParticipantOctober 25, 2016 at 8:04 am #1305420
cpaMD86ParticipantI am testing in a few days and am doing fairly well on the MCQs. I did all of the Ninja MCQs and am now going back and forth between Roger and Ninja MCQs doing questions. Has working the SIMs helped you guys? I feel that Audit is one of those sections where doing some practice SIMs might help. I've worked some, but I don't know how much time I want to invest in SIMs…
FAR: 9/3
October 25, 2016 at 2:30 pm #1305699
Sticky NickyParticipant@cpamd taking mine on the 9th…i do the sims…i think they help conceptually…i;m also using Roger and I feel like he does a good job,,,i read the book then watch the lecture,,,i take notes while watching the lecture only because its more efficient for me to write while listening as opposed to stopping every minute to write while reading…im also trending high on ninja with high 90s and an average in the mid to high 80s…did u think Roger did a good job with FAR? i see you passed that one already
October 25, 2016 at 2:45 pm #1305718
cpaMD86Participant@sticky nicky
Thanks for the comments. I am actually sitting on Thursday for Audit…I've been working on MCQs from both Ninja and Roger, non-stop. In Roger's IPQ I also include a couple of SIMs for practice…
I've done about 2k in ninja…trending in the 85 range and avg in the low 70s. I've been doing pretty well overall with the MCQs on both sides…I just hope it's enough. I definitely need to cover the reports a little more and the audit evidence concerning assertions and what not…I do think Roger was good for FAR. He breaks it down very well, but like others may note the MCQs were imperative to my success.
FAR: 9/3
October 25, 2016 at 7:39 pm #1305877
Tiffany HolifieldParticipantFor this simulation, you are asked to calculate the last three amounts in the table. My becker book has the following two formulas though:
Sampling interval = Tolerable misstatement/ reliability factor
Sampling size = book value of population/sampling interval
Are there just two ways to find the size and interval?
You have decided to use Probability Proportional to Size (PPS) sampling, sometimes called dollar-unit sampling, in the audit of a client’s accounts receivable balances. Few, if any, errors of account balance overstatement are expected. You plan to use the provided PPS sampling table:
Reliability Factors for Errors of Overstatement
Overstatement Errors Risk of Incorrect Acceptance1% 5% 10% 15% 20%
0 4.61 3.00 2.31 1.90 1.61
1 6.64 4.75 3.89 3.38 3.00
2 8.41 6.30 5.33 4.72 4.28
3 10.05 7.76 6.69 6.02 5.52
4 11.61 9.16 8.00 7.27 6.73Given the following information, calculate the sampling interval and the sample size you should use.
Tolerable error $15,000
Risk of incorrect acceptance 5%
Number of errors allowed 0
Recorded amount of accounts receivable $300,000
Reliability factors for errors of overstatement 3.00
Sampling Interval $5,000
Sample Size 60The reliability factor is taken from the provided chart, using the 5% Risk of Incorrect Acceptance, and no overstatement errors, as provided in rows 2 and 3 of this problem.
The reliability factor uses the chart information on the PPS sampling table. The reliability factor quantifies the auditor’s desired risk of incorrect acceptance based on the number of overstatement misstatements. The problem states that the number of errors allowed (or number of overstatement misstatements) is zero; this is the row always used to obtain the reliability factor for determining sample size.
The auditor must determine the sample size in advance to use PPS. The sample size is based on this formula:
Population book value x Reliability factor
Tolerable error – Expected misstatement = $300,000 x 3.00
$15,000 – 0
= $900,000
$15,000
= 60In PPS, the sampling unit is based on dollars, not individual items or accounts. The auditors must calculate a sampling interval in order to choose the items to test. The formula for the sampling interval is:
Population book value
Sample size = $300,000
60= $5,000
After choosing a random starting dollar value, the auditor would examine the account that contains every $5,000 from the starting point.
October 25, 2016 at 8:55 pm #1305954
pharaohParticipantI suck big time with Sampling 🙁
FAR 8/2016
AUD 1/2017
REG TBD
BEC TBDOctober 25, 2016 at 10:13 pm #1306002
JoshParticipant@CPAWarrior – I'm sure that's possible, but you have to determine the most efficient use of your time and AL on the exam; I've been told it's good for Audit Opinions?
October 25, 2016 at 10:31 pm #1306011
JoshParticipant@Sticky Nicky – You're correct. Reviewing accounting records for nonrecurring transactions recognized near the balance sheet date.
Answer (B) is correct.
Related party transactions may involve window dressing at the end of the period. For example, a shareholder may repay a loan just before the balance sheet date, and the entity may then lend the same amount to the same party after the beginning of the next period (AU-C 550).
I flagged it because I wasn't sure, but I guessed that myself.October 25, 2016 at 11:08 pm #1306023
Sticky NickyParticipantu guys think 11-12 days is sufficient for final review? Currently have 2 remaining sections in Roger before i complete the entire book and lecture videos,,,predicting by the end of friday i will be done with all of Roger (including MCQs) and Ninja MCQs since ive already done all MCQs for completed sections in both…my plan after is to pound out thousands of random MCQs as well as go through becker and wiley mcqs…I feel like i can do at least 100 mcqs per hour if im not distracted by sports haha,,,will 5000 MCqs and all of the TBSs be sufficient? as well as the 11 day time frame?
October 26, 2016 at 1:20 am #1306074
pharaohParticipant@Sticky Nicky – Assuming you are going in order, the last 2 sections in Roger are small and have around 100-110 MCQ combined. It depends on how much time you have each day, you can finish them by Friday assuming 1 section a day.
I usually finish all the sections in Roger and then do Ninja because they are not in the same order and I am too lazy too check Ninja by sub-sectionFAR 8/2016
AUD 1/2017
REG TBD
BEC TBDOctober 26, 2016 at 8:25 am #1306110
Sticky NickyParticipant@pharoah I have reports and comps&reviews and other services which is small,,,so its actually 3 sections,,,IT is not something im gunna waste my time on because I just took BEC so its all fresh,,,I study 8 hours per day,,,I just finished ninja for audit evidence..today i have about 6 hours to study so im hoping to bang out report section,,,then tomm and friday focus on the other services and compilations,,,by end of friday I will be finished with ninja mcqs and all roger materials including reading the book mcqs and lectures,,,then im switching to Becker HW to do all those MCQs,,,after Wiley Test bank questions,,,,then back to ninja and Roger to do random questions testlets,,,AUD questions are fast though I can probably do the entire Ninja MCQs again in 2 days
October 26, 2016 at 8:32 am #1306111
HoosierCPAParticipant5000 MCQ's is plenty to be prepared. I looked up a Ninja thread last week to get an idea of how many questions people did compared to their actual test score. The average seemed to be around 1700-2400. I finished around 2600.
If you think about it — Ninja test bank is roughly 1700 questions if you average 60-70% first go around that leaves around 600-700 questions for a 2nd time through–that puts you at a total of 2300-2400–even if you scored 70% on those remaining questions that leaves you with around 150-180 remaining for a third time and around 2600 questions in all.
Hopefully that made sense lol — basically you're at double what I think would be a safe amount of questions.
FAR - 78
REG - 72,74,71...please just go away REG nobody likes you!
BEC - 82
AUD - Aug 16October 26, 2016 at 10:06 am #1306147
GeorgeParticipantCan you reference both PCAOB and GAAS in an audit report for an issuer ?
October 26, 2016 at 10:37 am #1306171
Sticky NickyParticipanti think just PCAOB and GAAP for issuers along with COSO for the internal control report…nonissuers=GAAS i believe says “applicable financial reporting framework” and mentions GAAS
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