AUD Study Group Q4 2014 - Page 78

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  • #623009
    Iggy1985
    Member

    I did take the practice exam, it was helpful. This is my first time taking AUD, I've only taken FAR so far, once thankfully 😀

    I think the format is just easier on the exam because there's less material there, like the access gives you all the fasb stuff as well as audit stuff, so you have to dig through more. Also the table of contents disappears when you click on a section, and I don't think it will do that on the exam. I'm mostly comparing to FAR and how it's presented on Wiley test bank. But otherwise it's the same content so I think it helps.

    I don't think it will impact you because it's based on your section ID, so I'd imagine you get access for each unique section ID.

    FAR - 89 (8/19/14) Wiley TB, Wiley Book, Books from School, Ninja Audio/Notes
    AUD - 92 (10/14/14) Wiley TB, Wiley Book, Ninja Audio
    BEC - 82 (5/8/15) Mostly Ninja MCQ, sprinkles of Becker lectures and Ninja Audio
    REG - (8/14/15)

    #623010
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    On to impairing auditor's independence.

    If close releative has direct financial interest that is NOT matetial, that would still impair auditor's independence? If they hold a key position it will be imparied, but if your spouse or dependent child holds ANY position, will independence still be impaired?

    #623011
    Iggy1985
    Member

    @cpahopeful

    a relative's direct financial interest is an indirect financial interest to the CPA. Indirect financial interests that are not material do not affect independence. If it were a material interest by the relative (specifically over 5% of shares), and the CPA knew about it, it would affect independence.

    Only key positions affect independence, if a relative was say, a bookkeeper, it wouldn't affect independence of the CPA.

    key positions include officer, director, promoter, underwriter, voting trustee, or trustee for a pension or profit sharing trust of the client

    FAR - 89 (8/19/14) Wiley TB, Wiley Book, Books from School, Ninja Audio/Notes
    AUD - 92 (10/14/14) Wiley TB, Wiley Book, Ninja Audio
    BEC - 82 (5/8/15) Mostly Ninja MCQ, sprinkles of Becker lectures and Ninja Audio
    REG - (8/14/15)

    #623012
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Ah thanks, not a difficult topic but some what tricky.

    Also, SSARS does not allow preparation of adjustments or depreciation entries, but for an audit it is okay to do that as long as the auditor doesn't have final responsibility?

    #623013
    Fk
    Participant

    @Iggy1985, thanks got it.

    #623014
    Iggy1985
    Member

    @cpahopeful hmm..

    I THINK the auditor can propose entries but not make them.. having difficulty finding that answer myself lol

    FAR - 89 (8/19/14) Wiley TB, Wiley Book, Books from School, Ninja Audio/Notes
    AUD - 92 (10/14/14) Wiley TB, Wiley Book, Ninja Audio
    BEC - 82 (5/8/15) Mostly Ninja MCQ, sprinkles of Becker lectures and Ninja Audio
    REG - (8/14/15)

    #623015

    Hey, Im going through questions…Earlier someone posted a question about fees and billings. I came across another questions that helped point out something i overlooked..i hope it makes sense.

    An understanding with the client MOST LIKELY would:

    A identify specific internal control activities that are likely to prevent fraud.

    B evaluate the reasonableness of the client's accounting estimates.

    ANSWER C: discuss fees and billings.

    D inquire of the client's attorney as to whether any unrecorded claims are probable of assertion.

    AU-C 210.A23 includes other items which may be included, if applicable, BUT ARE NOT required in an engagement letter. These other items might include:

    A. arrangements regarding fees and billings.

    B. additional services to be provided relating to regulatory requirements.

    C. conditions under which access to audit documentation may be granted to others.

    ANSWER D. All of the answer choices listed are correct.

    The comparison/relation:

    Fee arrangements, expected client assistance, and additional services included in the engagement MAY (not required) all be included in the engagement letter.

    MAY be included in the understanding of the engagement letter

    So may and most likely…

    #623016
    Fk
    Participant

    @lil Enginethatcan , an understanding with the client is done before the cpa enters into client office all the choice a ,b and d are done later on in the audit. A and B is done during the planning stage . d is done during the evidence stage.

    #623017
    Iggy1985
    Member

    yea, what fayas said. the key word is understanding WITH the client (meaning the auditor and the client are making an agreement on something), you usually work out the fees beforehand / hourly rates and can put them in the engagement letter, the other stuff is later in the audit and isn't something you need to come to an understanding with the client on

    Here's a Wiley question that stumped me

    Which of the following factors is most relevant when an auditor considers the client’s organizational structure in the context of control risk?

    A. Management’s attitude toward information processing and accounting departments.

    B. The organization’s recruiting and hiring practices.

    C. Physical proximity of the accounting function to upper management.

    D. The suitability of the client’s lines of reporting.

    FAR - 89 (8/19/14) Wiley TB, Wiley Book, Books from School, Ninja Audio/Notes
    AUD - 92 (10/14/14) Wiley TB, Wiley Book, Ninja Audio
    BEC - 82 (5/8/15) Mostly Ninja MCQ, sprinkles of Becker lectures and Ninja Audio
    REG - (8/14/15)

    #623018
    Future Ninja
    Participant

    @iggy – is it D? key word: organizational structure = lines of reporting

    AUD - 79 (expired) retaking July 28,2016
    FAR - 76 expiring July 31, 2016
    BEC - 85
    REG - 74,74,74,74,59,70,

    #623019
    Iggy1985
    Member

    Yeah it's D, I picked A because I was thinking attitudes/tone at the top is part of organizational structure that is part of control risk >_>

    Their only explanation for D was “This answer is correct because proper lines of reporting are necessary to prepare financial statement that follow GAAP. “

    FAR - 89 (8/19/14) Wiley TB, Wiley Book, Books from School, Ninja Audio/Notes
    AUD - 92 (10/14/14) Wiley TB, Wiley Book, Ninja Audio
    BEC - 82 (5/8/15) Mostly Ninja MCQ, sprinkles of Becker lectures and Ninja Audio
    REG - (8/14/15)

    #623020
    Future Ninja
    Participant

    If the auditor identifies a significant risk related to fraud involving improper revenue recognition, the auditor may perform all of the following except:

    A. confirm contract terms with customers.

    B. perform substantive analytical procedures relating to revenue.

    C. observe shipment of goods.

    D. observe inventory at year-end as agreed upon in the planning stages of the audit.

    AUD - 79 (expired) retaking July 28,2016
    FAR - 76 expiring July 31, 2016
    BEC - 85
    REG - 74,74,74,74,59,70,

    #623021
    Future Ninja
    Participant

    5:30pm – it's time to knock out some mcqs

    AUD - 79 (expired) retaking July 28,2016
    FAR - 76 expiring July 31, 2016
    BEC - 85
    REG - 74,74,74,74,59,70,

    #623022
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Iggy, I believe the auditor can make JEs as long as management reviews them and accepts responsibility.

    #623023
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Is the answer D Iggy?

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