AUD Study Group Q4 2014 - Page 27

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  • #622241
    mariam almas
    Participant

    did not get it ?? why the answer is D ????

    Ineffective general controls by themselves:

    always cause misstatements.

    never cause misstatements.

    could cause misstatements.

    could allow misstatements.

    A.

    I

    B.

    II

    C.

    III

    D.

    II and IV

    AUD: 81 (Done)
    REG: Currently studying
    FAR: TBD
    BEC: TBD

    NH

    #622242
    jsim85
    Member

    Hi Mariam – I think the keyword in the first three statements are “CAUSE”. If you think about it, ineffective controls are not the CAUSE of misstatements. A human error can CAUSE a misstatement, or collusion can CAUSE misstatements, but the ineffective controls itself won't.

    Therefore, ineffective controls will never CAUSE misstatements, but they could ALLOW misstatements.

    Someone correct me if I'm mistaken here.

    AUD - 68, 85
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    #622243
    jsim85
    Member

    Can someone help me understand the logic behind the sample size factors for attribute sampling? I just don't get it. For example: an increase in tolerable rate will have an inverse effect on the sample size (decrease). If you're saying you're willing to live with a higher tolerable/error rate, shouldn't you increase your sample size?

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    REG - 80

    #622244
    mariam almas
    Participant

    @jsim85 , thnx for your explanation

    i think the logic is when the auditor is willing and agree to accept a high error rate(TR increase) this means no need to increase your effort and waste your time by testing huge amount of sample size, therefore he will test a small amount of sample size (sample size decrease), this happens when there is a strong internal control (control risk is low)

    however, when the auditor NOT willing to accept high error rate(TR decrease) he should increase his effort in testing the sample size (increase sample size)

    AUD: 81 (Done)
    REG: Currently studying
    FAR: TBD
    BEC: TBD

    NH

    #622245
    jsim85
    Member

    Thanks Mariam. I see we're taking the exam almost the same time, GOOD LUCK!

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    FAR - 75
    BEC - 74, 76
    REG - 80

    #622246
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Anyone else here have trouble with AUD using only Becker? I got a 72 on Audit twice using just Becker, while passing the others the first time. Planning on getting Ninja to supplement and hopefully I'll be done once and for all.

    #622247
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @ Future Ninja Thanks for the answer. Good to know!

    I think we should number our questions so when we answer we just refer to the question number? Thoughts? Also, posting explanation is a good idea.

    #622248
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @jsim85 I feel you. I consider sampling as my weak area. I wish we could borrow mariam's brain to get over this topic.

    #622249
    mariam almas
    Participant

    @CPAby2015 sure u could hehehe

    AUD: 81 (Done)
    REG: Currently studying
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    NH

    #622250
    mariam almas
    Participant

    and yeah agree with u in numbering the question

    AUD: 81 (Done)
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    NH

    #622251
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Sounds good, but do you mean number every question? How would we do that with his Ninja MCQ

    #622252
    mariam almas
    Participant

    i meant, if u dont mind when u post a question please number it, so when multiple questions are posted at the same time we can easily discuss them by mention the number only

    AUD: 81 (Done)
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    NH

    #622253
    mariam almas
    Participant

    1) An advantage of statistical sampling over nonstatistical sampling is that statistical sampling helps an auditor to:

    a.

    Eliminate the risk of nonsampling errors.

    b.

    Minimize the failure to detect errors and fraud.

    c.

    Measure the sufficiency of the audit evidence obtained.

    d.

    Reduce the level of audit risk and materiality to a relatively low amount.

    AUD: 81 (Done)
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    NH

    #622254
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Good start with the numbering: 1. C Keywords ” measure sufficiency”. 🙂

    #622255
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Good start with the numbering: 1. C Keywords ” measure sufficiency”. 🙂

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