AUD Study Group Q4 2014 - Page 20

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  • #622136
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @CPAHOPEFULL11 I think if SSAEs is a catch-all standard. That means if it's an attestation service that does not belong to SSARS or SAS then it will fall under SSAEs. Compilation always fall under SSARS but for review, nonpublic – SSARS, public – SSAES. That's how I understand it.

    #622137
    FG_CPA
    Member

    @willpassby2014

    Before accepting an engagement to audit a new client, a CPA is required to obtain:

    A.

    an assessment of fraud risk factors likely to cause material misstatements.

    B.

    an understanding of the prospective client's industry and business.

    C.

    the prospective client's signature to a written engagement letter.

    D.

    the prospective client's consent to make inquiries of the predecessor, if any.

    The reason why it is D is because A & B are actually done during the planning & learning phases of an audit (after it has been accepted), and C is wrong as well because the auditor will accept the engagement and AFTER then they draft the engagement letter and have it signed.

    D: if a client refuses to allow the auditor to make inquiries, the auditor is advised to not take the engagement at all

    AUD - Oct. 10, 2014

    #622138
    FG_CPA
    Member

    To everyone wondering about about SSARS vs SAS during reviews and compilations, becker 2014 has a chart on page A2-66 that details it well, for those who don't have becker, here is the summary:

    Compilation: ONLY nonissuers – SSARS

    Review: SSARS- for nonissuers

    SAS- nonissuers interim

    PCAOB- issuers interim

    As far as I'm aware SSAE is for attest engagements only and it's related to auditor responsibility, so it is like an “extension of GAAS” (according to becker book). SSAE isn't used for audits of financial statements, it is just for attest engagements like agreed-upon procedures, compliance, MD&A, etc. SSAE is “an expression on assurance on subject matters OTHER than basic financial statements”

    AUD - Oct. 10, 2014

    #622139

    Makes sense. Good observation

    BEC Passed
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    #622140

    Hey all fellow Q4 AUD takers. Just finished up my online tax class so I've cleared my brain of all that REG junk and getting ready to load up on AUD. I've got another online class in AUD (North Alabama that uses CPA Excel videos and book) starting soon, have the 10pt. Package, adding Ninja MCQs. For REG I used all of the above + Roger CRAM for the videos. This time though, my class and the associated videos will cover the entire material so I'm thinking about forgoing Rogers stuff this round. Anybody have any experience with the CPA EXCEL videos? Are they generally good enough if one has zero audit background (not even a class yet)? I like Rogers style but don't want to flush another 300 bucks if I don't have to….

    MBA,CMA,CPA, CFF?, ABV?

    #622141
    NJPRU
    Member

    Good luck howmany! kick some butt!! 🙂

    AUD: DONE
    FAR: DONE
    BEC: DONE
    REG: DONE

    IM GOING TO BE A CPA!!!!!

    #622142
    PasstheCPA7
    Participant

    Hi guys – I'm new to this forum and hopefully taking AUD in October! I got a question for those who have already taken AUD and who are using Becker 2014. I wanted to ask if it is okay to go over the chapters out of order (i.e. doing Chapter 1, 2, and then 6)? I wanted to tackle Chapter 3, 4, and 5 after I finish 1, 2, and 6. However, I wasn't sure if that would that be okay or do we have to go in the chapter order that Becker provides? Please let me know.

    Thank you!

    #622143
    Future Ninja
    Participant

    @PasstheCPA7 – I am doing it backwards from A6 to A1 because audit report is the end product of everything. To me, I do not mind if whatever chapter we study first as long as we have a take away. I'm following the ninja method. I'll do all the videos, then I go back and re-study the book and do my own intensive notes. Then I answer simulation first, and then non-stop MCQ. From time to time, I read clarified standards from aicpa site. Whatever suites you as long as we retain the information and beat the beast. That's what matters in the end.

    AUD - 79 (expired) retaking July 28,2016
    FAR - 76 expiring July 31, 2016
    BEC - 85
    REG - 74,74,74,74,59,70,

    #622144
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    For those familiar with ARCs where would these terms go?

    Sales Order

    Bill Of Lading

    Sales Invoice

    Sales Register

    Subsidiary Receivables Ledger

    Remittance Advice

    Remittance Listing

    Cash Receips Journal

    Deposit Slip

    Bank Reconciliation

    Receiving Report

    Purchase Requisition

    Purchase Order

    Receiving Report

    Purchase Vendor (Invoice)

    Invoice Register

    Payment Voucher

    Purchase Journal or Voucher Register

    #622145
    Future Ninja
    Participant

    sorry if this is getting too long to discuss. I'm not over yet with this prof reqt thing. I bumped into this wiley question:

    interim review of quarterly f/s of non-public entities – should comply with AU-C not SSARS.

    Kindly help me please. I'm frustrated, I am getting this wrong everytime.

    AUD - 79 (expired) retaking July 28,2016
    FAR - 76 expiring July 31, 2016
    BEC - 85
    REG - 74,74,74,74,59,70,

    #622146
    Future Ninja
    Participant

    interim review of quarterly f/s of non-public entities – should comply with AU-C (SAS) not SSARS. Is this correct?

    AUD - 79 (expired) retaking July 28,2016
    FAR - 76 expiring July 31, 2016
    BEC - 85
    REG - 74,74,74,74,59,70,

    #622147
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Yep, that is correct. Interim review FS comply with SAS not SSARS.

    #622148
    mariam almas
    Participant

    as @FG_CPA said the summery table in Backer review course A2-66 is very helpful regarding the SSARS, SAS and PCAOB

    AUD: 81 (Done)
    REG: Currently studying
    FAR: TBD
    BEC: TBD

    NH

    #622149
    Future Ninja
    Participant

    Do both inherent risk and control risk exist independently of the audit of f/s?

    AUD - 79 (expired) retaking July 28,2016
    FAR - 76 expiring July 31, 2016
    BEC - 85
    REG - 74,74,74,74,59,70,

    #622150
    plotikkk85
    Member

    Do both inherent risk and control risk exist independently of the audit of f/s?

    AR (Audit Risk)= RMM (Inherent Risk X Control Risk) * DR (Detection Risk)

    Risk of material misstatement consist of Inherent and Control Risks. Auditor can not change them; however, we can change our assessment of these risks.

    DT must be controlled by us.

    And yes, these risks (IR and CR) exist independently.

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