AUD Study Group Q4 2014 - Page 118

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  • #623620
    jeff
    Keymaster

    This question has been updated. Get the new question here:

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    #623621
    johnny_debt
    Member

    Has anyone worked on Simulation 65 in Ninja Test Bank? The question appears to be asking for the change in gross profit ratio when it asks for us to ‘determine the effect on ratios', however the answers to the question refers to the change in gross profit, not the change in gross profit ratio (gross margin).

    AUD - 91
    BEC - 84
    FAR - 91
    REG - 91

    #623622
    cpain2015
    Participant

    Anyone who has taken the AUD exam recently, have any advice?

    FAR - 73, 75 PASSED
    AUD - 74, 96
    BEC - 79
    REG - 89! Done. I'm a CPA!!

    #623623
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I feel like this is a contradiction in Becker. Anyone seeing something I'm not?

    Becker's textbook (A3-69): “If relying on the operating effectiveness of internal controls intended to mitigate significant risk, test of controls must be performed in the current period. The auditor cannot rely on tests of controls performed in prior periods.”

    CPA-02381:

    Which of the following statements is correct concerning an auditor's assessment of control risk?

    My answer: a. Evidence about the operations of controls in prior audits may NOT be considered during the current year's assessment of control risk”

    Correct answer: b. Assessing control risk may be performed concurrently during an audit with obtaining an understanding of the entity's internal control

    Choice “b' is correct. Some risk assessment procedures performed to obtain an understanding of internal control may provide evidence about operating effectiveness, even if they were not intended for that purpose. This is possible because the procedures performed to achieve one objective may also provide evidence regarding the other.

    Choice “a” is incorrect. Audit evidence that was obtained in prior audits about the effective design or operation of internal controls may be considered by the auditor in assessing control risk in the current audit.

    I could see why b is correct, but I don't get why a is incorrect. Is the key thing that the MCQ was talking about assessment of control risk, while the text was talking more about what needs to be done during the fieldwork?

    #623624
    johnny_debt
    Member

    @Akvod,

    You may use prior period evidence in support of relying on controls that have not changed every 3 years. You may not rely on evidence from prior period if the control has changed or it is a significant risk. The question is vague and does not specify if its a significant risk or not.

    See AUC 318.42

    “If, based on the understanding of the entity and its environment, the auditor plans to rely on controls that have not changed since they were last tested, the auditor should test the operating effectiveness of such controls at least once in every third year in an annual audit.9 As indicated in paragraphs .40 and .45, the auditor may not rely on audit evidence about the operating effectiveness of controls obtained in prior audits for controls that have changed since they were last tested or for controls that mitigate a significant risk. The auditor's decision about whether to rely on audit evidence obtained in prior audits for other controls is a matter of professional judgment. In addition, the length of time between retesting such controls is also a matter of professional judgment, but it should not exceed more than two years. The auditor should test a control at least once in every third year in an annual audit, because as time elapses between testing a control, the audit evidence provided in the current audit period about the operating effectiveness of a control tested in a prior audit becomes less relevant and reliable (see paragraph .44).”

    AUD - 91
    BEC - 84
    FAR - 91
    REG - 91

    #623625
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    OK, so key point is SIGNIFICANT (and changed every 3 years) risk. I didn't see that part at all.

    Thanks a lot!

    #623628

    Anybody else in their final review? How are you guys tackling it? I've been through this three times but something tells me this one is going to take a slightly different approach…12 days and counting…

    MBA,CMA,CPA, CFF?, ABV?

    #623629
    sumersrose
    Participant

    Has anyone else taken their AUD exam? I took mine yesterday. Fingers crossed – It is the last one I need! It would be awesome if I could get the score Friday (wishful thinking… I know its more like scheduled for 11/24).

    I dont feel like I did horrible but whats making it more nerve racking for me is that I had 1.5 hrs left when I finished the exam. Has anyone else experienced that? I'm just hoping its a good sign that I did great! All the other ones I had tops maybe 30 mins left… now 11/24 cant come soon enough.

    REG: 2/26/2014 Pass
    BEC: 5/29/2014 Pass
    FAR: 8/31/2014 Pass
    AUD: 4th Attempt, 8/25/15 ... Omg, PASS w/a 93 and I'm done!!!

    #623630
    magatha12
    Member

    @How many letters do you need,

    I'm 8 days away from my exam (Nov 6th). At this point, I am just doing MCQs and SIMs, not so much note taking right now unless it's a concept I'm totally stuck on. I'm a little nervous about the exam asking questions about MPU and sampling calcs, I seem to struggle on those.

    So yes, my final review will just be: As many MCQ and SIMs as I can do and try to understand the concepts of why they are right/wrong.

    FAR: 79
    AUD: 81
    REG:5/29/15
    BEC:85

    Using CPA Excel, NINJA notes and audio, NINJA MCQs

    #623631

    Magatha: that sounds pretty solid. I'm just finishing notes consolidation today so thats pretty much my plan going forward. Im a little nervous because Im only amswering MCQs in the 60s right now and usually Im in the 70s somewhere at this point. I'm right there with you on sampling it's one of my weaker areas even though I have a pretty robust statistics background. It's just a funky topic…good thing it's one of the smaller ones :). Are you using NINJA MCQs at all? I'm a little behind so I was contemplating going without them this time but I loved the Sims for REG and was wondering how they are for AUD…

    MBA,CMA,CPA, CFF?, ABV?

    #623633
    magatha12
    Member

    @How many letters do you need,

    YES! – NINJA MCQs I have had great experience with when I took FAR so I bought them for AUD. Audit for me took awhile to click (since I am in tax), but once it does click, those 60s will be become 80s 🙂

    The SIMs have been very good and challenging and they cover pretty much every area, although I can't compare to the actual exam yet, I am sure it won't hurt!

    FAR: 79
    AUD: 81
    REG:5/29/15
    BEC:85

    Using CPA Excel, NINJA notes and audio, NINJA MCQs

    #623634

    Thanks for the encouraging words magatha! Just hope it clicks at some point in the next 12 days 🙂

    Good luck in your final review Ill be around as I try to nail some of this stuff down….

    MBA,CMA,CPA, CFF?, ABV?

    #623635
    magatha12
    Member

    Not sure if this is in here already, but where can I find the most recently released AICPA AUD questions?

    FAR: 79
    AUD: 81
    REG:5/29/15
    BEC:85

    Using CPA Excel, NINJA notes and audio, NINJA MCQs

    #623636
    sumersrose
    Participant

    @magatha12

    I took the AUD exam earlier this week – for the SIMS, just know the material and you'll be able to work through them. I was worried because I practiced more the material/mcq's than doing SIMS. I did one Becker SIM practice and that was it – more just so I saw what it looked like. When I got to the SIMS in my exam… I was like “hey, this isnt so bad… I understand the material so I can apply it as needed”

    REG: 2/26/2014 Pass
    BEC: 5/29/2014 Pass
    FAR: 8/31/2014 Pass
    AUD: 4th Attempt, 8/25/15 ... Omg, PASS w/a 93 and I'm done!!!

    #623637
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    HiYa…

    Guys,,plz plz plz plz help me understand Financial Statement Assertions application.

    -PERCV

    -OCCCA

    -OCCA

    plz plz plz..this makes me cry !

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