AUD Study Group Q4 2014 - Page 101

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    Anonymous
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    @Future Ninja Is this your first section to take?

    #623360
    Anonymous
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    I believe it is and that is why he is feeling the way he is. Ninja, you know your stuff just relax and continue to knock out the MCQ. You will never feel great before an exam trust me.

    #623361
    Chigracy
    Member

    Hi guys do you think that Becker or Wiley SIM are hard enough like in the exam? my exam is on 10/17 . I finished all the videos and i'm doing MCQs and SIMs but i Feel like i dont know anything. Not working so i'm studying full time pfffffffff

    #623362
    Anonymous
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    The sims on the Ninja MCQ are really good but you will always get something different on the exam. You just can't panic and use the AL feature for help.

    #623363
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I agree. I remember that feeling when I took FAR and that's normal. Just make the most out of the remaining days to boost your score and just do your best on the actual test.

    #623364
    Chigracy
    Member

    Thank you! will do my best

    #623365
    Anonymous
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    When you use a framework different from GAAP like OCBOA, is the EOM paragraph before the opinion paragraph?

    #623366
    zoc1
    Member

    Hey ninjas! Had my AUD exam last Tuesday…feeling good about laying it to rest. Left myself 1hr 45mins for the SIMs and used EVERY MINUTE. I used the authoritative literature in the SIM section to check and re-check my answers so I feel pretty solid.

    Now onto BEC…catch everyone in the next thread.

    Good luck!

    REG - 83
    FAR - 76
    AUD - 80!!!
    BEC - 76!!!!!!!

    #623367
    Anonymous
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    I never understood this but when a client refuses to disclose the substantial doubt to continue, it is considered an departure from GAAP. However, why is that not inadequate disclosure?

    #623368
    Iggy_1985
    Participant

    if disclosures regarding substantial doubt of a going concern are inadequate, auditor should modify opinion. If they are adequate, emphasis of matter paragraph. AUC 570 .17

    FAR - 89 (8/19/14) Wiley TB, Wiley Book, Books from School, Ninja Audio/Notes
    AUD - 92 (10/14/14) Wiley TB, Wiley Book, Ninja Audio/Notes
    BEC - 82 (5/8/15) Ninja MCQ, A few Becker lectures during commute
    REG - 84 (8/14/15) Ninja MCQ, A few Becker lectures during commute

    Letters after my name soon!

    #623369
    Anonymous
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    Yeah I get that, but isn't that basically the definition of omitted disclosures.

    #623370
    Iggy_1985
    Participant

    it's specific to disclosures regarding doubt of a going concern, not disclosing it is inadequate, where did you see that it wasn't inadequate?

    FAR - 89 (8/19/14) Wiley TB, Wiley Book, Books from School, Ninja Audio/Notes
    AUD - 92 (10/14/14) Wiley TB, Wiley Book, Ninja Audio/Notes
    BEC - 82 (5/8/15) Ninja MCQ, A few Becker lectures during commute
    REG - 84 (8/14/15) Ninja MCQ, A few Becker lectures during commute

    Letters after my name soon!

    #623371
    johnny_debt
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    In the course of an audit, the auditor realized that an internal control is deficient, but elects not to test that control. The auditor has determined that:

    A. the control would not present a reasonable possibility of material misstatement to the financial statements.

    B. the control would present the possibility of material misstatement to the financial statements.

    C. testing the control would result in inefficiencies in the audit procedures.

    D. testing the control is not part of the audit process.

    The answer to me seems to be either A or C. The correct answer is A, but why couldn't the answer also be C?

    Is it because an auditor does not perform a test of controls on a deficient internal control?

    AUD - 91
    BEC - 84
    FAR - 91
    REG - 91

    #623372
    Iggy_1985
    Participant

    @Johnny yeah reading this question I think, okay the internal control is not good, so there's no point in testing it because you already know it's not good, and should move right to substantive procedures. So I would choose C. Shenanigans.

    Maybe because it's a deficiency, not a material weakness, so you'd test the control – but since it has little to no bearing on the F/S, then you wouldn't test it?

    FAR - 89 (8/19/14) Wiley TB, Wiley Book, Books from School, Ninja Audio/Notes
    AUD - 92 (10/14/14) Wiley TB, Wiley Book, Ninja Audio/Notes
    BEC - 82 (5/8/15) Ninja MCQ, A few Becker lectures during commute
    REG - 84 (8/14/15) Ninja MCQ, A few Becker lectures during commute

    Letters after my name soon!

    #623373
    johnny_debt
    Member

    @Iggy_1985, please see my answer below and let me know if i'm overthinking this or if I'm just plain crazy.

    I think its because testing of control of an internal control which is deficient isn't that its ‘inefficient', its just well… pointless. I think in the audit vernacular, inefficient means, which is better from a cost standpoint, time spent on test of control or time spent on substantive testing. In this case, testing of controls isn't inefficient, its just pointless because when evaluating the design of the control we've already determined it to be deficient. Thus answer C is wrong because its not that its inefficient, its just pointless.

    Answer B is plain wrong.

    But what is confusing is that the facts state that the auditor ‘realized' the internal control is deficient. I interpret that as either 1) the control was not identified as a control to test as part of the audit plan due to materiality or, 2) the auditor thought the internal control design was effective but realized that it wasn't.

    If in scenario 1, the control was not identified as a control to test as part of the audit plan and the auditor happen to just stumble on this control in his/her audit, then A is probably a better answer than D.

    If in scenario 2, the auditor ‘realized/assessed' internal control as deficient after having ‘determined' that the internal control was effective, then none of the answers apply. Because the auditor would only determine if internal controls are effective or not because the auditor identify this control as having a relationship of risk of material misstatement. Thus it can't be A-D.

    AUD - 91
    BEC - 84
    FAR - 91
    REG - 91

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