AUD Study Group – Q3 2018 - Page 4

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  • #1839356
    Anonymous
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    Hi, my name is Doreen and I am scheduled for August 15, 2018 to take Auditing and Attestation.
    Ratio Analysis keeps me awake at night.
    The tip I would give is to schedule time daily for studying, don't let anyone or anything (within reason) distract you from that time. Don't expect anyone to understand the need for so much studying (“you have your master's degree, you should be able to pass this easy!” HOW WOULD THEY KNOW?). Just do what you need to do. This is one time, it's all about you.
    Good Luck and happy studying everyone!
    Doreen

    #1839446
    Joetse
    Participant

    @Mouse – you need to do more m/c and simulations on internal control and audit evidence to understand what procedures to perform to gather the relevant evidence to satisfy balance sheet, transaction related, and disclosure F/S objectives. You kinda have to do enough m/c to know which procedures to perform for every major cycle – like liabilities, revenue, A/R, A/P, cash receipts/disbursements, payroll, fixed assets, and investments. Memorizing the audit procedure to go with each relevant assertion for each cycle or account is not good enough, cause it's so subjective, and you just need to see enough practice questions to see the life cycle of an audit. Also, know when you use analytical procedures, which accounts they are likely to be used on, and how to use them to design further audit procedures (nature, extent, and timing). For example, you might start out doing analytical procedures of revenue to gauge initial control deficiencies and gaps in operational processes. Then, during fieldwork you're gonna test a sample of A/R. What do you do? You're supposed to get confirmations. What if the confirmations aren't correct? Then you're supposed to perform additional procedures. What if the evidence still isn't good enough? Then you might do analytical procedures of the valuation accounts (those subject to a lot of management estimates/bias/subjectivity). Be aware of bad segregation/overlapping of duties (incorrect authorizations, management that is lying, committing fraud, negligent, or making aggressive, un-substantiated assertions). Any time they do that, you always need to follow up with additional evidence and document whenever their integrity is questionable to governance. Once your fieldwork testing uncovers all material misstatements, before you can know the the audit procedures that will detect those misstatements in the future, you have to know the preventative and detective controls that will detect and prevent that misstatement from happening again, as well, as needing to identify that control gap and which accounts or transactions that misstatement will happen again in the future. For non-subjective balances, you can do that through confirmations, examinations and reviews of documentation. For testing and understanding the design of controls, you can do that through walkthroughs and inquiry, observation, examination. For understanding effectiveness and implementation, that is reperformance, in addition to inquiry, observation, and examination. But if there is no documentation, and IT evidence is impossible to get, then you can only rely on inquiries of management, and very observant and document everything that comes out of managements mouth and look for anything questionable, omitted, or incomplete in their explanations or procedures, and ask a ton of questions, until you are satisfied with complete audit evidence.

    #1839455
    Joetse
    Participant

    @Mike- Simulations and m/c on those chapters are very good practice for that. Work enough of them that you've seen every single permutation of modifications on every communication, management rep letter, engagement letter, and report, until you ‘re fairly confident with all the paragraph modifications and additional language or paragraphs required. You can get there, you just have to do enough practice. I'd say work 10 simulations, and like 50 multiple choice. I know it's easy to forget when you need a restricted paragraph vs when you don't, when you need an other matter vs emphasis of matter, when you need to disclaim vs just unqualified opinion. Means you have a lot more studying you need to do, spend a couple hours everyday until you've seen basically every scenario. AUPs and financial projections (even examinations of them) always require a restricted use paragraph. I/C communication to management and governance in connection with a F/S audit always requires a restricted use paragraph. A yellow book report does NOT require a restricted use paragraph, but instead has a purpose paragraph and a separate compliance scope paragraph. How do I know all this? By seeing so many m/c questions and getting them all wrong and forcing me to go back to re-study those areas and burn it into memory until I don't forget it again. Audit is sheer memorization, is a beast, and cannot be underestimated. IMO, it requires the most time out of all 4 parts, since you cannot just derive the answer from some 4-part rule on leases, it's very subjective as well as rules based so you have to not only know the rule, but understand when, why, and how you are applying that rule. (For example, restricted use paragraphs are always optional, but in specific reports they are required. Other matter paragraphs are optional, but many times in practice you will always see them (like when adherence to GAAP would be misleading to users that using non-GAAP would actually be more clear when there are unasserted contingencies or uncertainties, funky or new estimates or accounting rules), and a few instances they are required whenever there is a departure from GAAP or GAAS.

    #1839530
    Regan
    Participant

    Hi I'm Regan, and I'm taking AUD on July 25

    The subjectivity of the topic is hard for me, as others above me have mentioned that there can be multiple good answers but only one “best” answer

    My study tip is that I like to do some multiple choice on the topics I’ve already covered at the beginning and end of each study day to warm up/wind down and to continue to keep those topics fresh

    #1839635
    Siksara
    Participant

    I am working my butt off to study in between work and drinking 🙂
    Taking AUD July 30th
    Exam topic keeping me awake — probably haven't gotten there yet or all of it im not sure just trying to retain it all after being out of school for a while– why did I wait so long????

    So far the best tip I have gotten is to write everything out that I am missing… after I write it I do a voice memo so I can listen to myself on the drive to work in the mornings.
    It would be nice to have someone other than me reiterating my readings.
    AUD here I come !!

    #1839653
    Mike
    Participant

    @Joetse I appreciate that thoughtful reply. At this point I've been through all the material once, so I'm going to really use MCQ's and simulations to drill those into my memory. Thanks!

    #1839721
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hey my name is Anna and I'm planning to sit for Aud at the end of August,haven't schedules my exam yet. It will be my third attempt. I am really struggling with this section. I'm currently waiting on scores from taking REG and BEC 2nd qtr.

    #1839803
    Myrtle
    Participant

    When are you taking your exam? don't have a date yet, but I'm planning on taking it at the end of October/beginning of September
    What exam topic keeps you awake at night? I'm just starting to study so no specific topic yet. Right now what is stressing me out is that I don't know if I passed FAR or not!!! (I took it in Q2)
    One study or career tip others might find helpful. What works for me is to start studying straight right after I come home from work. If I don't do this then I end up getting distracted by a million other thing and next thing I know it is midnight and I didn't study anything that day…

    #1841320
    CPATooleTime
    Participant

    I am taking AUD 7/21. I got a 47 the first time because I thought, how hard could it be? And I didn't really study other than the Becker class.

    I am having trouble remembering the verbatim report language.

    One study tip is that I listen to the Ninja audio A LOT! And I also printed out my book. I am old school and like a physical book to look at and take notes from.

    Good luck to everyone!

    Waiting for FAR score on the 28th.

    #1841365
    Sam
    Participant

    How much would taking FAR before AUD help with the exam? Because in college I took Intermediate II before I did auditing and I remember it helping me quite on exams because I understood how different transactions affected the financial statements. Should I worry about this at all on the AUD exam?

    #1841837
    jeff
    Keymaster

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    Please email support@ninjacpareview.com to request your access. HIYA!

    #1841858
    LSU Crystal
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    Hi! My name is Crystal and I'm an older CPA candidate. I got my degree 25+ years ago and finally decided I would sit for the exam in 2013. I have taken BEC and FAR three times each but have yet to pass BEC and am waiting on my FAR score from 6/5/18. I'm starting to study for AUD while waiting for the score release. I've used Wiley CPAexcel, Roger, and Becker. Lots of people told me Becker was the best, but I don't learn well from reading so I found their program least helpful. Roger was OK but I found myself remembering his goofy stores more than the material. I'm now solely using Wiley CPAexcel along with NINJA Notes.

    I'd love to hear from other older candidates on their study methods and success stories. I definitely need some motivation to keep going!

    #1843289
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Could Anyone share your strategy for the questions asking you to fill you the section code of the rules?
    Do we have to memorize all these codes?

    #1844110
    Tarheel83
    Participant

    @RealCPANinja Can you elaborate? Is this for a SIM? Is it for the research SIMS?

    Also, I have a question. I am in my last week of review and I feel comfortable with the overall material. My plan is to do random 20 sets of MCQs, review my “weaker” areas, re-read and take notes on those sections, review ratios heavily all week, and review some of the basic AJE's that may pop up in a SIM just to make sure I am at least familiar before going into the exam. I am currently holding about 1700 NINJA MCQs completed with an overall avg of 75%, trending of 78%, and I have seen each question at least once.

    Would you all recommend any additional preparation or strategies to add into the final review week? Thanks!

    #1845056
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Yes, about the research in the SIM. How to do it?

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