[Q3] AUD Study Group 2014 - Page 89

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  • #593476
    Anonymous
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    Does anyone know the focus areas for the exam?

    I just flipped to the back of my becker book and realized A6 has governmental audit, which I'm completely unfamiliar with. I know in FAR, the exam was huge on gov't accounting..wondering if this is true for audit as well?

    #593477
    Anonymous
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    I don't recall any government questions on the two Audit exams I have recently taken. Interesting, I don't think they even mention government audit in the Wiley books.

    #593478

    IN govt audit just remember these

    For govt audit the auditors should audit and report on Internal control. They should also report on applicable laws and procedures.

    Major federal program should be audited

    They are governed by GAO and single audit act is of importance. All questions revolve around these.

    Govt Audits are tested in the exam

    BEC Passed
    FAR Passed
    AUD Passed
    REG Passed

    #593479
    shankysays
    Member

    Well, exactly one week to go and I'm in the review phase…been doing Ninja MCQ all week and have been doing pretty good…just did 3 30 question “testlets” and got 82%….so I think my plan is to keep hitting as many MCQ as I can while getting some sims in. It's been two years since I took (and failed) this section, and I can't remember what the sims were like at all.

    BEC - 72, 82! ✓
    FAR - 80! ✓
    AUD - 70, 92! ✓
    REG - 74, 78! ✓

    Licensed CPA 5/2015

    #593480
    Anonymous
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    retailing entity uses the Internet to execute and record its purchase transactions. The entity's auditor recognizes that the documentation of details of transactions will be retained for only a short period of time. To compensate for this limitation, the auditor most likely would:

    I picked A.

    compare a sample of paid vendors' invoices to the receiving records at year-end.

    I thought this is the most reasonable test.

    But the correct answer is C.

    perform tests several times during the year, rather than only at year-end.

    I thought of C for a second, but then it won't be cost effective to do the test several times.

    It turned out A is wrong because” Comparing a sample of paid vendor's invoices to the receiving records at year-end and increasing the sample of transactions to be selected for cutoff tests may not be possible due to the nature of the documentation available”

    Something like this always throws me a curveball 🙁

    #593481
    Anonymous
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    I'm on A-5 (becker) and finding sampling to be difficult. Debating to just skim this section as I'm running out of time.

    Does anyone know if there is a heavy emphasis with A5 (becker) and sampling on the exam?

    #593482
    Anonymous
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    Sampling isn't all that difficult, what exactly are you having trouble with? Maybe I could help you before you take the exam.

    But I've had a few questions about Sampling but nothing too much. You may get a question or two, but if you have little time maybe you should just skim over it and go over the important parts (Responsibilities/Planning/IC/Evidence).

    #593483
    Anonymous
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    @CPAhopeful11,

    Thanks for responding.

    Heres an example of what I don't understand: If the auditor assesses control risk too low, then the true population deviation rate exceeds the auditor's tolerable rate while the auditor's estimate of the maximum deviation rate (based on sample results) was less than the tolerable rate.

    I thought it the control risk is low, then the population deviation rate should be smaller than the tolerable rate, that is why there will be less substantive testing.

    Also, if you can clarify upper deviation rate that would be great.

    #593484
    Anonymous
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    Ok, so I get why you are having trouble with this. Just remember this:

    Control Risk too low=Less Effective

    Control Risk too High=Less Efficient

    If population deviation exceeds the tolerable rate while sampling deviation is less, you should not accept it. If you do, you assessing control risk too low and it is ineffective.

    If the population deviation is less than the tolerable rate while sampling deviation exceeds the tolerable rate, you should accept it. If you don't, you are assessing control risk too high and it is inefficient.

    If you are to pick on, you rather be inefficient than ineffective though. Just get this part down along with the inverse relationships between RMM/IC/DR/Sub Testing and you will be fine. You don't need to worry all that much about the other areas as there are more important topics to study.

    #593485
    Anonymous
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    @CPAhopefull11 Thank you, SO much. this clarifies a lot.

    #593486

    HELP PLEASE . AL QUESTION

    Your CPA firm has been auditing the financial statements of XYZ Company for several years. Your assistants have approached you and asked if they can omit the confirmation of XYZ's accounts receivable. Identify the GAAS paragraph which describes the circumstances under which the confirmation of accounts receivable may be omitted.

    Enter your response in the answer fields below. Guidance on correctly structuring your response appears above and below the answer fields.

    I answered 505 .03 but the answer is different. Can you please let me know why my answer is wrong…..

    BEC Passed
    FAR Passed
    AUD Passed
    REG Passed

    #593487
    Anonymous
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    @cparunner210 You're very most welcome. Keep at it and like Mr. Jeff says, “It all comes together!”

    @Amanda_88 Good for you for knocking out AUD. I am in the same boat as you in terms of exam preparation except I went with Bisk textbook. Those NINJA MCQs are a powerful tool and it definitely helped with zeroing in the areas that I needed to smooth out.

    @beat_counter Don't get discouraged. Here is what kept me on track with audits in the electronic environment. Because the audit evidence that you need to get your hands on exists only for a limited amount of time automatically puts you at risk for NOT obtaining the sufficient appropriate audit evidence to support your conclusions. Remember the electronic data that has a short retention period is harder to obtain than say, the paper invoices on file tucked away in a filing cabinet. In order to make sure that you hit the sufficient (quantity) that you need, doing more testing over time (“interim” period of time) gives you more opportunities to gather the evidence and establish a pattern, e.g. “Has the data always been consistent every time I checked? Have there been any surprises over time?” The key is getting the evidence into documentary form aka build the paper trail on the electronic records. Electronic is dangerous as it can easily disappear into cyberspace from an audit perspective. (Sorry for the long-winded explanation, but it helps to visualize the big idea).

    All right, 3 days of R&R then it's onto REG. Get ready to rumble!

    #593488
    Anonymous
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    @peko8535 Practice the research SIMs a couple of times. I would not try to memorize the literature, but at least know which standards are applicable to which scenarios, e.g. PCAOB applies to issuers. AU-C applies to audits on non-issuers. Keep your auth lit straight and you will be fine. Memorizing will kill your mojo, at least for me in the past.

    #593489
    Anonymous
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    Becker says that if your sibling is an internal auditor for the client, this impairs independence because they are a immediate family member.

    However, I thought the rule was : member's spouse and dependents (dependent children, dependent relatives, spouse). Is there a difference between the spouse/dependents and immediate family member?

    How about: if your dad was the internal auditor of the client?

    #593490
    shankysays
    Member

    Was wondering if anyone had any input on this question…

    “If not already performed during the overall review stage of the audit, the auditor should perform analytical procedures relating to which of the following transaction cycles?”

    A Payroll

    B Revenue

    C Purchasing

    D Inventory

    The correct answer is apparently B, because “income statement items are much more predictable.” But payroll expense is also an I/S item….

    BEC - 72, 82! ✓
    FAR - 80! ✓
    AUD - 70, 92! ✓
    REG - 74, 78! ✓

    Licensed CPA 5/2015

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