[Q3] AUD Study Group 2014 - Page 84

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  • #593401
    Anonymous
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    cutoff always mentions timing. completeness is just “hey lets check if that thing that is supposed to be written down is written down.” Not necessarily “when” it was written down.

    #593402
    YoungNC
    Member

    Is anyone else having trouble with Audit Evidence, Becker's A-4. I haven't run into a section that I have struggled with more on anything I saw in FAR & REG. Someone have some useful tips/pointers??

    #593403
    Anonymous
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    audit evidence was my biggest issue too, much harder than anything on FAR. I think it's one of those areas where experience in auditing would make it easy but without experience it's very difficult.

    part of the reason is because it's so difficult to teach, at least traditionally (by reading and watching lectures). there's too many possible permutations of procedures and events and accounts and documents and orders to even begin listing them, or memorizing them. so the best they can really do is give you a very general framework – basically, the types of audit procedures you can do, tracing/vouching/confirming /recalculating etc, the assertions, and some common documents. but then the MCQs come in and they're insanely specific and it feels impossible.

    I have AUD tomorrow and I'm still not nearly 100% comfortable with them. I think the best you can do is just MCQ, MCQ, MCQ. I know it's typical advice, but it works better than almost anything else. the more comfortable you get with the procedures, assertions, and documents, just by repeated exposure, the easier it gets to read and interpret the question and each answer. I would recommend doing the MCQs in the mode that gives you immediate feedback, and what you want to do is try to get the answer right obviously, but even if you do, click each wrong answer and read the explanation on why it's wrong. this way you get exposure to 4 different procedures searching for evidence in 4 different ways.

    #593404
    Anonymous
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    I have three years of audit experience and still struggle with this section!

    #593405
    Anonymous
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    so much for that theory, then.

    #593406
    Anonymous
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    I mean its easier than not having any experience but its still tough. Mainly because the control processes described are extremely archaic so its hard to apply to a real world setting.

    #593407

    Amanda…I have a trick and it always worked.

    If transaction recorded prematurely -Occurence

    If transaction recorded belatedly (After y.enmd) -Completenees

    This always worked for me:)

    BEC Passed
    FAR Passed
    AUD Passed
    REG Passed

    #593408
    Anonymous
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    Thanks @will and @darcer- I think that helps me. I am bad at just clicking on the first answer I think is right without reading them all through, when I'm practicing.

    On another note, I hope that the sampling methodologies (mean per unit, ratio, estimate, etc) are not tested emphasized as much on the test as Ninja emphasizes them. Becker barely spent any time on them!

    #593409
    Anonymous
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    Just came across this Becker question and wanted to see other people thoughts:

    Which audit procedure is most likely related to the classification and understandability of the financial statements with respect to inventory?

    a.

    Examining consignment agreements.

    b.

    Confirming inventories pledged under loan agreements.

    c.

    Obtaining quotations for the current market value of inventory.

    d.

    Analyzing inventory turnover.

    I selected D because analyzing inventory turnover is a way of identifying slow moving/obsolete inventory. Becker said that B is the better answer but to me, B seems like it would be related to the rights and obligations assertion rather than valuation.

    #593410

    @Amanda_88 I totally see where you are coming from. I think why D is correct is because understandability deals with the appropriate disclosures, and you need to appropriately disclose the loan agreements that the company has. This could be completely wrong, but thats my take on it.

    #593411
    Anonymous
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    My thinking was if inventory was pledged, it doesn't make sense that the assertion would be valuation. How does pledged inventory affect the valuation of it? Tough question

    #593412
    Anonymous
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    Completely agree w/ @TX above. It's a tough question and I'd probably say B, C, or D could be correct. The key word is “understandability” I think. The fin statement user would need to understand that these assets have the potential to be taken in case of default.

    #593413

    Analyzing inventory turnover rates is valuation and allocation. It provides auditor of slowmoving/ obsolete /defective items included in inventory. It represents valuation.

    Confirming inventories pledged under loan agreements is classification .The pledge or assignment of any inventories is appropriately disclosed.

    BEC Passed
    FAR Passed
    AUD Passed
    REG Passed

    #593414
    peko8535
    Member

    I always have a hard time remembering to choose the Sample deviation rate + Allowance = Upper Deviation Rate. Just thought of a quick memory tool.

    So Upper dev = Sampling + Allowance,

    USA! USA! USA!

    Hope this helps someone else…

    FAR - Passed! 8/23/13 (Becker Self Study and Ninja Audio)
    REG - Passed! 7/24/13 (Becker Self Study and Ninja Audio)
    AUD - Passed! 8/25/14 (Becker Self Study and Ninja Audio)
    BEC - Passed! 11/23/14(Becker Self Study and Ninja Audio)

    Now Gimme my Bonus!!!

    #593415
    purndreamCPA
    Member

    Hey Guys,

    I have recently finishe BEC .. still waiting for score

    i would be aiming at AUD now…. please provide me tips if possible

    BEC : 75 ( 8/25/2014)
    AUD : Taking in October -TBD

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