AUD Study Group July August 2013 - Page 19

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  • #437786
    Ikile
    Member

    Have Governmental Audit reports changed at all due to Clarity??

    #437787
    Kenada
    Member

    Here is the reply for Going Concern i got from Rogers.

    Hello Insiyah

    A disclaimer of opinion may be appropriate but an “except for” modified opinion is never appropriate when substantial doubt about an entity's ability to continue as a going concern has been adequately disclosed.

    First, the “textbook” answer:

    At a bare minimum, SAS No. 59 requires the auditor to evaluate whether there is substantial doubt about the company’s ability to continue as a going concern for a reasonable period of time, not to exceed one year beyond the date of the financial statements being audited.

    If the auditor has substantial doubt about the entity’s ability to continue in existence for that length of time, the auditor should add an explanatory “emphasis” paragraph highlighting the client’s disclosure of the going concern uncertainty to the standard unmodified report.

    If there’s potential doubt about a company’s going-concern status, the audit firm is expected to talk to management about how they plan to keep the company afloat — such as by selling off noncritical assets — and the feasibility of such plans.

    If, after assessing management’s strategies, the auditors still have “substantial doubt” about the company’s ability to stay a going concern, they will explain that in their report. Otherwise, without a going-concern modification, auditors “presume you will stay in business.”

    Finally, the “common sense” explanation:

    An “except for” modified opinion is like your doctor telling you “except for the terminal cancer, you are in excellent health.”

    I hope this is helpful.

    FAR 05/27/14; 786/110 - Done !

    #437788
    Kenada
    Member

    No the Government standards have not changed for the Clarity project for the CPA exam. Nothing I have noticed.

    FAR 05/27/14; 786/110 - Done !

    #437789
    Kenada
    Member

    By the way, i will ask Roger that too just in case i am not right.

    FAR 05/27/14; 786/110 - Done !

    #437790
    Ikile
    Member

    Thank you insiyah24 and tessablkwd!

    #437791
    nbad311
    Member

    I've been on Wiley's Reports chapter now for about 7 hours (past 2.5 days). Since it's the new info, I'm going slow and reading all corresponding AU-c pieces and doing each MCQ and taking the time to read why the wrong answers are wrong. Although I got in 3 hours of studying yesterday, I had to stop around 10pm because I was getting really pissed off that I had been looking at the reports section for 3 study sessions in a row and it was driving me f'ing crazy. I was just like………………………………………………… yeahhhhhhhh I can't look at this sht anymore.

    Success with the CPA exam rests a lot on your ability to trick yourself into thinking “it's not that bad”, when really, it's so damn terrible. You have to stay in the study zone and not think about how trying it can be…. don't even divert from the path or your mind will end up in a bad place. Like last night, I got a glimpse into what exactly I had spent 7 hours studying and I got so damn frustrated.

    REG - 65, 70, 80!
    BEC - 35, 62, 79!
    AUD - 73, 75!
    FAR - 65, 73, 70, 75! DONE.

    #437792

    @nbad311 – I just logged in to HiYa your post. SO TRUEEEE!! Everything you said.

    CA CPA - All because of the journey listed below
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    REG - 66('11), 69('12), 12/06/12 77 PASSED!!
    BEC - 58('10), 74('12), 01/05/13 77 PASSED!!!
    AUD - 43('11), 66('12), 69('13), 74('13) 7/29/13 85 PASSED!!!!!

    (Combinations of Roger, Yaeger, Wiley Book, Wiley TB, & NINJA Notes)

    Ethics 90%

    #437793
    Kenada
    Member

    For Going Concern Reports – Okay so if I get this correctly

    We can have

    1. Unmodified with emphasis

    2. Adverse

    3 Disclaimer.

    But never a qualified opinion.

    Have i got it right?

    ………………………………………..

    Hello again

    You've got it!

    Roger CPA Review Team

    FAR 05/27/14; 786/110 - Done !

    #437794
    Kenada
    Member

    For Government Audits

    There are three different types of government compliance audits, all of which include testing compliance with laws and regulations, include:

    1) Audits conducted in accordance with GAAS;

    2) GAS audits in accordance with GAGAS; and

    3) GAS audits performed under the Single Audit Act.

    Under the revised nomenclature of the Clarity Project, these fall under the category of “Audits of Financial Statements Prepared in Accordance With Special Purpose Financial Reporting Frameworks” under AU-C 800.

    FAR 05/27/14; 786/110 - Done !

    #437795
    10keyLeah
    Member

    Does anyone have reference or a link to a chart summarizing which paragraphs are modified for each type of report?

    Ninja Combo, Yaeger, Wiley -- Licensed CPA, May 2015

    #437796
    Zaq
    Participant

    @10Key: I'd like to have something like that, too. I do know that all Unqualified Opinions with Modifications (Necessary departure from GAAP, going concern, lack of consistency, etc.) have an EP that goes before the OP. Qualified and Adverse Opinions related to GAAP have an EP that go before as well. Scope limitations have have an adjustment to the scope and a EP before the OP. Those are the main ones I can think of on the top of my head.

    Can someone explain to me the concept of a service organization and what a Type 1 and Type 2 report means? All I have from my notes is that Type 1 sucks and Type 2 rules.

    FAR: 50, 76!
    REG: 74... (ouch baby, very ouch), 76!
    AUD: 65, 91!?
    BEC: 80! Aaaand doneskies!

    May 2012 to August 2013. Can't believe it's over.

    #437797
    Kenada
    Member

    Hiya – I think i have something let me check once i get home from work if what i am thinking will help.

    I sort of followed Rogers way of learning the basic report and then knowing which pgh change depending on which report it is. So its in my head lol… can't attach my brain to this forum now can I 🙂

    FAR 05/27/14; 786/110 - Done !

    #437798
    Ikile
    Member

    @ InfernoOmni:

    Type 1 report is a report on the design and implementation of a service organization’s control and it does not provide assurance on the operating effectiveness of controls which is exactly what Type 2 report includes; therefore you’re right: T1 is not good, T2 is good as it may provide the auditor evidence that would allow a reduction in the assessed level of CR for areas of the entity’s accounting that are affected by the service organization.

    Hope this helps

    #437799
    Kenada
    Member

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/fijtks7iegfq2h2/photo%20%281%29.JPG

    Hello, See if you are able to click on the link to down load the summary of Non Standard reports.

    FAR 05/27/14; 786/110 - Done !

    #437800
    10keyLeah
    Member

    @insiyah24 – it worked! Thank you so much for the chart! It's exactly what I was looking for.

    @InfernoOmni – also note that SOC3 are for WebTrust/SysTrust and they are for general use. SOC1 and SOC2 are restricted use.

    Ninja Combo, Yaeger, Wiley -- Licensed CPA, May 2015

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