Start Early — Help!

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    Just3Letters
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    Hey everyone,

    My HR manager emailed me this morning and asked if I would start early. I was originally planned on starting early October like I imagine most of college graduates do. The “start early” would be early July.

    Three things about this:

    1. I am incredibly eager to start my life and move to the city.

    2. If I pass both FAR and REG first time (fingers crossed), I will only have BEC and AUD to study for while working. Summer hours aren’t as bad but we do have some Q2 reviews for public clients.

    3. My firm is very accepting of studying during light work hours and they have quiet rooms and such.

    Ok, lay it on me. I really want to say yes but I need some 2nd and 3rd opinions first.

    Thank you!

    FAR- 81
    REG- 81
    BEC- Aug 22, 2016
    AUD- TBD

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  • #777822
    Spartans92
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    Just3, for me I would definitely start as soon as possible. Why waste those time when you can bring in money. Better yet if you can pass all 4 section or 2 assuming you pass REG and FAR while working full time it shows you have your priorities set straight and you are capable of handling stress and multiple tasks at one time. The only downfall is that you get less time to study. It is much more rewarding, personally, if I can pass these exams while balancing other things in my life.

    Also, in the future for interview purposes you can say this as a strength! All in all, best of luck!
    I am also excited to start.. got 2 more months to study full time as well

    BEC- PASS

    #777823
    jessica8926
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    From experience I would not. BUT that is my personal experience and everyone on here is different from you. I tried taking two parts before I started working in audit in January 2014 and failed both. I started working and ended up taking a year off from the test because I never had time or energy to try and study for it. I got put on a BIG public client that had quarterly reviews and a HUGE year end audit. The turn around for each were so quick that I could not imagine trying to study. Even during the summer our hours were no less than 60. We also had two new hires who started “early” too in July and they tell me still that they wish they had waited even though they both finished there CPAs they still wanted more time to enjoy life before work haha.

    It really depends on you, your dedication, your study style, and the clients you get put on. Sure they say summer hours are a lot less, but that is for the majority of people who have smaller or calendar year clients. You could be someone who gets put on an abnormal year client and end up having to do a year audit mid summer who knows! If you are dedicated to study any free time you get and are very good with sticking to that then you might be ok.

    Anyway, as someone with a few years of experience, I will always tell you to enjoy your time before real life starts! I know it is exciting to start your career but take the time to enjoy life before it starts and to pass that exam! If you tell HR no because of your test it also would not hurt you or your future career path so do not worry about that.

    I would just really take a step back and think about how stressful things will get trying to study and work and adjust to a whole new career and life. Even if I was not on a big public client, the adjustment from college life to real life was so hard and stressful that it made the thought of studying so hard. A lot of people underestimate that part of things and start early thinking things would work out fine and for some it does, but just be careful and take the time to weigh everything out.

    Just my two cents, hope it helps!

    AUD - 69, 77
    REG - 74, 81
    FAR - 75!
    BEC - 71, 82

    IL candidate!

    Finally done (5/24/16)!! Yahooooooo!

    #777824
    Mayo
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    I started early. I regretted it. I wish I could have those 2 months to have studied more and generally enjoy life. Then again, I needed the money, so it wasn't really an option for me.

    Mayo, BBA, Macc

    #777825
    Anonymous
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    Could you wait to answer till you get your FAR score (if that's tomorrow – I'm not up-to-date on the various release windows) and take that into consideration as you make your decision?

    I worked (albeit part-time and not in accounting) while in college, got a full-time accounting job as soon as I could after college (which ended up being Sept, but I used the summer to finish out my 150 credits while continuing the part-time job), and didn't even start taking the exams till after my first tax season. So, to me, the idea of having a few months job-free between school and career is foreign. It might have been nice, but was never even an option. I had bills to pay, more importantly I had things to be saving for (like getting my own house in the future), and not working wasn't an option. Paying for the last semester of college had completely drained my last pennies, and I had to start refilling the bank!

    That being said…I don't see a problem with starting sooner. Not sure what area you're in, so not sure what you're getting paid, but let's say you're in the $48k/yr range. That's $4k/month, pre-taxes. You're talking about 4 months worth of income that's up in the air – $16k pre-taxes. Probably around $12k post-taxes. $12k is a nice chunk of change! Is another 4 months of being able to relax and take things easy worth $12,000 to you? If so, then wait. If not, then start sooner. Obviously, for me, I wouldn't pay $12,000 for 4 months of taking it easier at this point in the career. 😉 (Especially since if that $12,000 isn't needed right now, then if it was invested in something earning 3% – which is a very conservative return over a long period – for the next 40 years till retirement, then it would be $39,000, which is even more money to be considering not getting!)

    I'm not known for being good at living in the moment, though. 😐 My goal is to retire around the age of 40 or 45, which requires a lot of short-term sacrifices for longer-term rewards. So, I do think in terms of “what can this money be in 20 years, and what would that enable for retirement”, like I laid out above. Might not make me much fun now, but hopefully will make me have more fun later. 🙂 So, if I retire in 20 years at 45, that $12,000 at 3% interest would be $21,673. Continuing 3% interest, if I made monthly withdrawals for 30 years (annuity calculation), I could withdraw $91.15 per month from it till I was 75 years old. So, basically, by working the 4 months now, if I didn't need the money for living expenses so could save it all, it's $91.15 towards monthly living expenses for retirement. Let's say I figure I need $2000/mo in retirement (house paid off already). That's 4.6% of my retirement account already set aside for an early retirement, just by starting work a couple months early. 🙂

    (Note: I know these calculations didn't include taxes being paid on the interest; it's rough figures for illustrative purposes only…my big workbook at home that tracks my progress towards early retirement includes all of that in it. And maybe 40 or 45 is ambitious, but ambitions keep the heart alive. 🙂 Also inflation isn't account for in here; my hope is that when my investments are larger I can find things which yield 3% after accounting for inflation, and historically that has been a reasonable expectation.)

    However………..if you will struggle to pass the exams while working full-time, then maybe it's worth getting them out of the way first. That's why if you're in the May 24 score window, I'd see how you did with FAR. If you know you've got 1 done already, then you know you'll be very motivated to get the other 3 before you lose credit for FAR, so I'd be even more inclined to say go for it. But, if you failed FAR, then you'll know you're going to have some struggles with these, and maybe having time to devote to them prior to working would be better. Also, you won't have expiring credit to keep you motivated. Theoretically, the returns from the CPA will be much greater than the 4 months of entry-level salary work, so it's definitely important to provide an environment that will allow you to pass the exams, whatever that is. People pass them working full-time, in public, and in the B4 all the time, but that's not to say it's easy.

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