FAR prepaid royalties. WTF is happening here? monikernc I need you

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    Biff-1955-Tannen
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    I’m having an absolute hell of a time figuring out what is even happening in this situation. Actual question and solution start about halfway through post. In my head this is what was happening:

    on 1/1 we prepay royalties so the entry would be (dr) Prepaid royalty 65,000 (cr) cash 65,000

    on 10/31 we remit the royalty payments, so the entry would be

    (dr) Royalty expense ???? (cr) prepaid royalty 65,000 (cr) cash ??? <— how am I supposed to know what the actual expense was this year?

    on 10/31 we also account for next years prepaid royalties, so the entry would be (dr) prepaid royalty ??? (cr) cash ??? <— how am I supposed to know what we estimate for royalties for next year?

    On 12/31 it says that we adjust the prepaid royalty, (why we’re adjusting the year end royalty expense is beyond me) Honestly I don’t even know what the entry would be for this since it says that it is a year end CREDIT adjustment, but in the explanation it’s adding to the prepaid royalties.

    Obviously I’m doing something wrong here, and I have apparently absolutely no idea whats happening. Does anybody else understand what happening and feel like explaining this?

    Ott Company acquired rights to a patent from Grey under a licensing agreement that required an advance royalty payment when the agreement was signed. Ott remits royalties earned and due, under the agree­ment, on October 31 each year. Additionally, on the same date, Ott pays, in advance, estimated royalties for the next year. Ott adjusts prepaid royalties at year-end. Information for the current year ended December 31 is as follows:

    Date Amount



    01/01 Prepaid royalties $ 65,000

    10/31 Royalty payment (charged to royalty expense) 110,000

    12/31 Year-end credit adjustment to royalty expense 25,000

    In its December 31 balance sheet, Ott should report prepaid royalties of:

    Here one needs to convert from the cash method to the accrual method as to the deferred amount of royalty expenses. The royalty payment was charged to (added to) royalty expense, but there was also a year-end credit adjustment downwards to royalty expense. The only reasonable debit to the year-end credit to royalty expense would be to debit (add to) prepaid royalties, as this could only be deferred (not properly accrued this year) royalty expenses.

    So far, prepaid royalties have had a debit balance of $65,000, and if one adds an additional debit to prepaid royalties of $25,000, there will be an ending balance of prepaid royalties of $90,000.

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  • #758347

    I hate when they word questions like this. My guess is you're supposed to assume that the annual royalty amount is $65K because in the given they state that Ott began the year with $65K in prepaid royalties.

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    #758348
    Biff-1955-Tannen
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    That's one of the things that I thought of as well, but then I remembered that they say they base the prepayment on an estimate of next year. So that sounds like it isn't a set amount each year which would mean it's probably not going to be 65k again, ya know?

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    #758349

    What, you want these clowns to make sense now?!!!

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    #758350
    monikernc
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    i get a balance of prepaid royalty of $25,000 at 12/31.

    do you know what the answer is?

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    #758351
    Biff-1955-Tannen
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    Sorry forgot to put the answer, the answer is 90,000

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    #758352
    monikernc
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    it is a tad hard to follow but…try this…

    balance of prepaid royalty at 1/1/Y2 is $65,000, no entry just a balance in the prepaid account, based on the 12/31/Y1 accrual.

    on 10/31/Y2 dr royalty exp 110,000
    ——————cr cash 110,000

    12/31/Y2 dr prepaid royalty 25,000
    ————–cr royalty exp 25,000

    i originally posted that the 10/31 JE included a credit to prepaid royalty for 65,000 and cash 45,000. but if the answer is 90,000 in the prepaid royalty account on 12/31, then the entries above should do it

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    #758353
    Biff-1955-Tannen
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    I guess I just don't understand what the point of having a prepaid asset is if you never expense it

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    #758354
    monikernc
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    i totally agree. i would have thought prepaid royalty would have been 25,000 at 12/31.

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    #758355
    monikernc
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    So Biff… the year starts with 65,000 in prepd. On 10/31 You pay another 110,000, so prepaid goes to $175,000. Royalty exp has a debit balance of $110,000. At 12/31 you determine that Royalty Exp for the year is only $85,000 so you credit it for 25,000. Prepd is credited 85,000 when royalty expense is closed out at year end and the prepaid balanced drops to 90,000. But i can't get JEs to work.

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    #758356

    I think the question is saying that we need an appropriate adjusting entry for royalty expense.The balance in prepaid is 65k. It says 110k is expensed when the payment is made (110k to royalty expense and 110k to cash)…obviously this is incorrect based on the information the question gave us.

    When they get to year-end they figure out that they expensed 25k too much so it needs to be credited from the expense account and debited to the prepaid account. 65k beginning balance plus 25k debit (since we credited expense you must debit prepaid to add it back) gives you an ending balance of 90k.

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