About to plunge into CPA study mode

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    Anonymous
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    Hey All – I finished a post-baccalaureate degree in Accounting last May which took me to over 150 credits, after having majored in Finance a few years before. I had a 3.5 GPA, but it has been a year since I took my last class. I work as a Staff Accountant as well, but the accounting I do at work has always been way simpler than in school.

    That said, I’m just looking for some tips for a complete newbie to this site and to the CPA exam in general. Some things I’d like clarification/advice on off the top of my head:

    -What Study Program? (Roger seems to get the best reviews, and is probably the best for my current budget, but I noticed some people like to supplement it with NINJA MCQ (What is the cost of this supplement PER exam?)

    -How many hours of studying per section? (I know this will differ, but I’d like to get a general perspective from multiple people if possible)

    How much time between exams? (This will differ as well and I’m sure will depend on how many hours one can commit daily, but is it recommended to take a short break after each exam?)

    -What order to take the exams? (I’ve heard that taking FAR is a good choice since it’s usually the hardest – In my case though, my Audit class was my worst and the only class I received a C in)

    -What is the estimated cost for each section? (If it varies by state, then I live in VA)

    Any other tips would also be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for the help!

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  • #780285
    GitRDone2017
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    @DavidB
    Hello there! I am also starting out on the CPA exam journey. They are changing the exam in 2017 so you might want to do some reading about that before you figure out which exam to take first. I am taking AUD and FAR in 2016 as I still have to get 4 more credits to qualify to sit for my exam in my State (OR). I went to the State Board of Accountancy website to find out what was needed for qualifications and the procedure. There is also a 2017 CPA exam blueprint that has been put out that is really helpful on what topics will be covered the new exam format. I think costs may vary per state? I do not know, but the website should break that down for you. Happy studying!

    "Confidence is going after Moby Dick in a rowboat and taking tartar sauce with you" - Zig Ziglar
    Ninja book + Ninja MCQ + Roger
    AUD Oct 2016
    FAR Nov 2016
    BEC ?
    REG?

    #780286
    samantha
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    I'm using Becker! (I actually got a 50% discount through my school running a promo or would have used Roger as well for budget reasons). I am supplementing it with ninja MCQ and it was $50/ section.

    I am studying for REG first because I have heard a lot of big changes are being made to that section come next April so I want to get it out of the way. My test is scheduled for July 25! I am then taking AUD, and then FAR. I think 5-6 weeks study time for REG and BEC is good, and a little more required for FAR and AUD. I am taking BEC last.

    Give yourself a few days off and then get right back to studying. Too much time away from studying will throw you off track from the routine you were in studying for previous test. Make sure to stay disciplined!

    #780287
    Sang
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    1. If you need to watch videos to learn, many people recommend Roger CPA review course.
    A cheaper option would be to get the Ninja 10 Point Combo, and then search Youtube for videos when you need help with a topic.

    2. There are 4 windows for you to take the exams.
    January & February, April & May, July & August, October & November.
    You can take all 4 sections in the same window.
    You can only take each section once per window.

    Some people spend 3 months studying, and take 1 exam per window.

    Most people spend 6-8 weeks to study each section, and take 1 exam at the beginning of the window, and a second exam at the end of the window.

    3. Some people recommend studying 200 hours per exam.

    4. Exam difficulty can be subjective, but 2 options are:
    Easy to Hard: BEC > AUD > REG > FAR
    Hard to Easy: FAR > AUD > REG > BEC

    FAR: (05/24/16) | (07/15/16) | (10/22/16)
    AUD: (09/07/16) | (11/29/16) |
    BEC: TBD
    REG: TBD
    Using Roger CPA Review + Ninja (MCQs, Notes, Audio)

    #780288
    MLove08
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    @DavidB I did the same track to CPA as you, undergrad in business and post Bac certificate in accounting to qualify to take the exams. I used Becker and I think it was pretty good prep, just a little expensive.

    I think the hours per section depends on the person. You'll see people who take two exams per window, and some who study 4 months for 1 exam, just depends on how focused you are and how quick you take in the material. I usually spent a month to 2 months depending on the section, some are longer than others, but I was studying after work and on the weekends 7 days a week.

    My order was FAR, AUD, REG, BEC which is typically recommended in order to knock out the hard ones first. That said, with the changes coming in 2017, I would dig a little deeper and see if that has changed and a different order is recommended.

    I'm in VA as well. Unless they changed it from a year ago, VBOA charges a $120 initial app fee, then $20 when you sign up to take each section to get your payment coupon. Then once you have your payment coupon, actually signing up to take each section is $170-$190 each, depending on which section you are taking.

    Good Luck!

    FAR 80
    AUD 80
    REG 88
    BEC 80
    Ethics 95

    #780289
    Anonymous
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    – What study program?
    If you learn well from lectures, watch samples of each to see which ones you learn best from. The materials that are great for me might be terrible for you or might be awesome for you, depending on how similar our learning styles are. If you don't learn well from lectures but do learn well from reading, then find samples of the books from each and see which seem most like something you could learn well from (though in my maybe-biased opinion, Wiley has the most thorough books, and they're also cheap – I loved using Wiley!). Finding the review course that suits you best is important. That being said, Roger is a solid choice. I watched some of his sample videos to help understand a couple concepts that I struggled with from just reading Wiley and I enjoyed them. Had I been more of an auditory learner, or had I been willing to fork over the money for a full review course, I would have gotten Roger.

    -How many hours of studying per section?
    As you'd suspected, varies a lot per person. There used to be a standard recommendation floating around that I think was something like 70-100 hours for BEC, 100-120 for AUD, 120-150 for REG, and 150-200 for FAR, or something like that, but my hours were never anywhere close to that for each of the sections. Other people will tell you at least 150 for any section. This also depends at least in part on what materials you pick. I chose Wiley books and test bank, so my study consisted of reading the book and doing practice questions. This was a low-time method, compared to someone who watches lectures (which may be 30-40 hours easily for an exam, from what I've gathered), stopping to do questions after each lesson in the lectures, and then does review practice questions at the end. In the study period that I read the book (20 hours?) they've watched 40 hours of lectures and done 30-40 hours of homework questions, so they've got 70-80 hours in before they hit MCQ (multiple-choice question) review state, whereas I've got 20 hours in at that point, so our total study time is going to be a lot different! One thing that's important to all, though, is to consolidate your hours. If you study 5 hours a week for 10 weeks, that's going to be less effective than that same 50 hours in 2 weeks, since you'll forget a lot more over 10 weeks than over 2 weeks. So, aim for more hours per week and some breaks, instead of fewer hours per week and extended study periods. 3-4 months of studying for an exam is just too long to actually remember for the majority of people.

    -How much time between exams?
    Enough for you to be rejuvenated and avoid burnout, but not enough to waste your 18-month timer or to lose inertia. For me, I took a week's break between each exam, at least. My last 2 I took longer, cause there was “blackout month” coming and I was starting a new job, so I took a couple weeks off…and I did have 2 exams that were less than a week of break cause I was eager to get back to studying. However, I'm a big proponent of studying hard and then enjoying well-deserved breaks. Unless you have a specific life-event that requires a longer break, I would advise against a month's break between exams; however, a solid week at least I found was good for one's mental health.

    If you meant how far apart to schedule exams: you'll see how long you need to study as you start, but I'd plan out my study time and see how long that led to. If you have a set of study material that has 40 hours of lectures for FAR, and you're taking FAR first, and you plan to study 100 hours total at 20 hours per week, then that's 5 weeks for FAR. Then if you plan to take a week's break, and then do AUD, and plan to study 80 hours for AUD at 20 hours per week, that's 4 weeks plus a week's break, so AUD 5 weeks after FAR. I'd probably pad the schedule with an extra week in case of unforeseen events or to allow for extra study, so make it 6 weeks later. Etc. etc. through the others.

    -What order to take the exams?
    Personal preference. Do you want to start with something easy as a confidence booster, or something hard to get the worst out of the way first? Only two that I think order really matters is to do FAR followed by AUD, because auditing is all about seeing if people did their financial reporting right, so it makes sense to review financial reporting before auditing, cause auditing is based on financial reporting. Also, I wouldn't suggest overlapping FAR or AUD with REG at all, since tax-accounting and financial-accounting are soooo different. So I guess my ideal order would be FAR, AUD, BEC, REG, or REG, BEC, FAR, AUD, so that if you have to do a re-take, you're not studying for REG then re-studying for FAR or AUD, since you've got BEC between then and can switch back to FAR or AUD after BEC. However, I did BEC, FAR, AUD, REG, and it worked for me, so it's not an exact science. 🙂 Right now, many people are trying to get BEC done before it has major changes with the coming exam changes; however, I can't remember which wave of changes BEC was in, and I think that the changes are over-hyped, so I wouldn't be too concerned over it…but it might be worth doing first if it hasn't been changed yet (its format will be changing and exam time lengthening, so presumably it will be a harder exam in the future).

    -What is the estimated cost for each section?
    Exam fees: https://www.boa.virginia.gov/cpaexam/ExamFees.shtml Not sure if in Virginia you have to pay the application fee one time or every time you apply for a new section of the exam. Generally people advise against applying for all 4 sections at once, since you'll only have a limited time after receiving your Notice to Schedule (NTS) to take the exams you've applied for – many states it's 6 months, not sure about VA. So if you apply for all 4, you have to take all 4 within that time, come hell or high water, or lose what you paid to apply. So, if you apply for 2 initially (let's say FAR and AUD), that'd be $120 application fee plus the fees for the two sections, each $193.45, so $506.90 total. Then when you apply for the next two – let's say REG and BEC – if the $120 is charged again, plus the fees for the two sections (those two are each $173.60), it'd be $467.20; if the $120 is just a one-time fee, then it'd just be $347.20. In KY, the $100 or so application fee was just one-time, and I think it was like a $10 processing fee for the re-application for the additional sections, or it might have not even had a fee; however, some states charge the full $100-ish fee for every time you apply for an additional section.

    #780290
    Anonymous
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    Thanks a lot for the advice – it is a huge help, and I'm pretty sure I know what my plan will be now. I'll probably try to take 2-3 exams before the end of 2016. From what I've heard, it appears that REG is getting the biggest change in 2017 – is this correct? And does that necessarily mean it'll be more difficult? I plan to take FAR first regardless, but if REG may be more difficult in 2017, then I might take that one second, even though I think that Audit is my weakest part of accounting.

    #780291
    MLove08
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    Yeah I've heard they are making a lot of changes to REG, and it's not going to get easier I'm sure. If I were in your position, I'd try my best to knock out FAR and REG before the end of the year. I certainly wouldn't want to be the first to be tested on the new changes.

    FAR 80
    AUD 80
    REG 88
    BEC 80
    Ethics 95

    #780292
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    But it looks like these changes will be effective April 1, 2017 (not Jan 1). So that's an additional window to take all the exams in – not too bad.

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