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January 5, 2016 at 2:36 am #753481
MartinParticipantohiostategirlcpa, it worked for you on Regulation, and I guess on FAR too. What were you averaging on Gleim BEC before you took the test?
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“Just keep swimming, just keep swimming.”FAR= 72-84
Audit= 73-82
BEC= 74-75
Reg=77January 5, 2016 at 2:41 am #753482
Claudia408Participant@ohiostategirlcpa – would you mind sharing an example of your T-accounts to calculate basis for C corp? That sounds like a great idea and I want to try making a list for myself.
BEC - 75 (3x)
AUD - 78 (3x)
REG - 67, 66, Aug 1
FAR - 54, Sept 8January 5, 2016 at 4:08 am #753483
Last Chance CPAParticipant@lswang – I wish 🙂 I went to the brink of expiry…
FAR - 76
AUD - 75
BEC - 75
REG - 76Now I need some experience!!! And some networking...
January 5, 2016 at 4:31 am #753484
Jackobe24Participantdo you guys have tips on using the Authoritative literature for the simulations??
I don't ever know what to freaking search and feel like I'm just wasting time to search for one small answer…..
FAR - 9/8/16 (Hopefully it's my last CPA exam, God bless me!)
REG - 80
BEC - 81
AUD - 69, 81January 5, 2016 at 4:44 am #753485
ohiostategirlcpaParticipantRe T-accounts,
I have a set of accounts for the owner/individual/partner, then a second set of accounts for the partnership/corporation.
These include: asset accounts, equity accounts, income accounts, expense accounts, etc.The debits and credits have to add up for both entities, when paying dividends, property distributions, investments, etc.
Different rules apply for partnerships and corporations, etc, so it requires knowing a lot of scenarios. However, generally, the taxes are only paid once, not both entity and owner, nor neither. The logic is that the govt always wants a cut of the gain and income.
So it is a matter of keeping multiple T-accounts for multiple entities, and trying to see the logic.
They helped me on all tests.
I was averaging 90s on all my Gleim MCQs, right before the test.
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CMA since 2015
(Gleim books/PDFs, MCQs, SIMS)January 5, 2016 at 3:36 pm #753486
Last Chance CPAParticipant@Jackobe24 – I ONLY passed because I finally used the IRC AL for REG properly on attempt #5. And take a look at my scores. I used the AL perfectly for AUD and found word-for-word answers, but I had trouble with using the IRC AL for REG until my 5th da*n attempt. You won't find word-for-word answers, but rather guidance on how to approach a problem. Trust me on this. I got help with 2 SIMs using the IRC AL. You have to add in time to just browse the IRC AL.
Use Gleim's 35/35/35/75 method and maybe leave some room for review. I would buy Gleim SIMs and practice searching through the IRC, as their SIMs (and IRC) are closest to the actual exam…good luck.
FAR - 76
AUD - 75
BEC - 75
REG - 76Now I need some experience!!! And some networking...
January 6, 2016 at 4:45 am #753487
AnonymousInactive@Ohio, re: T-accounts, when to properly use FMV or NBV (again* by Tim Gearty) when creating T-accounts for asset sections? For the love of CPA, I could not get this valuation/basis straight for different entities.
January 6, 2016 at 5:21 am #753488
ohiostategirlcpaParticipant@ Amor D
T-accounts don't tell you that, only how much to transfer.
You have to make a separate set of accounts for each type of entity and/or transfer: corporation, S-corp, C-corp, partnerships, formation, property distribution, income, like exchanges, etc.
I diagrammed some 15 different types of categories with T-accounts, and practiced them repeatedly until I memorized them, and could recreate them, given the type of transaction. In other words, if someone asked me what are the transactions for partnership formation, I could diagram the T-accounts for both the partners and the partnership, for most types of transactions.
Then I knew when to recognize income, what the basis was, etc.
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(Gleim books/PDFs, MCQs, SIMS)January 6, 2016 at 8:41 am #753489
nibParticipant@ ohiostategirlcpa
please let us have one sample of T entries you do .so that we can also practice.Can you copy paste and send .
i read and study a lot , but correlating and retrieving becomes difficult .
January 6, 2016 at 3:22 pm #753490
AnonymousInactive@Ohio, thanks.
Can we try to lay out the T-accounts for the sample question below?
Quigley, Roberk, and Storm form a corporation. Quigley exchanges $25,000 of legal fees for 30 shares of stock. Roberk exchanges land with a basis of $10,000 and a fair market value of $100,000 for 60 shares of stock. Storm exchanges $10,000 cash for 10 shares of stock. What amount of income should each shareholder recognize?
Quigley
Roberk
Storm
a.
$0
$90,000
$0
b.
$25,000
$90,000
$10,000
c.
$0
$0
$0
d.
$25,000
$90,000
$0January 6, 2016 at 3:48 pm #753491
tuanxnParticipantAmor D,
What answer does the question give? (and the explanation if you don't mind)
In a valid §351 transaction (formation of a corporation with 80% control), only the services contributed would be taxable to the shareholder, but none of the answers listed have that conclusion.
January 6, 2016 at 4:03 pm #753492
AnonymousInactive@Tuanxn, here you go.
Explanation
Rule: IRC Section 351 controls the taxation of transfers to controlled corporations. No gain or loss is recognized to the transferors/shareholders on the property transferred if certain conditions are satisfied.
Choice “d” is correct. The transaction in this question does not satisfy the conditions of Section 351, and gain or loss can be recognized for each of the shareholders. For Section 351 to apply, the shareholders contributing property, including cash, must own, immediately after the transaction, at least 80% of the voting stock and at least 80% of the nonvoting stock of the corporation. A shareholder who contributes only services (Quigley in this question) is not counted as part of the control group. Thus, only Roberk and Storm are counted, and they together own only 70 shares out of the 100 shares (70%). The $25,000 of legal fees to Quigley is compensation for services rendered and is recognized as income by Quigley. A gain of $90,000 (the fair market value of the land of $100,000 – its adjusted basis of $10,000) is recognized to Roberk. Storm bought shares for cash and has no gain.
Choice “c” is incorrect. This is what would happen if Section 351 applies to all of the transferors/shareholders.
Choice “b” is incorrect. Storm recognizes no gain of any kind since he/she merely bought shares for cash.
Choice “a” is incorrect. Quigley recognizes gain since transferors who contribute only services are not counted as part of the control group for Section 351 purposes. Gain is recognized by transferors who are not part of the control group.January 6, 2016 at 4:20 pm #753493
tuanxnParticipantah yes, totally forgot about the services exclusion. Thanks!
January 6, 2016 at 8:01 pm #753494
ohiostategirlcpaParticipantThis is how I would diagram this transaction:
Q
Stock basis
Debit 25Income (legal fees)
Credit 25R
Basis of land (existing debit balance of 10)
credit 10stock basis
debit 10
Debit 90Gain on land
credit 90S
Cash
Credit 10Stock basis
Debit 10Corporation
Cash
Debit 10Land
Debit 100Legal expense
debit 25Equity
Credit 25
Credit 100
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(Gleim books/PDFs, MCQs, SIMS)January 8, 2016 at 4:47 am #753495
AnonymousInactive@Ohio, thanks again. I am still lost with corporate taxation. I am still mixing up SH Tax Basis with Corp Tax Basis. I am just not good in juggling tax bases for various entities.
So frustrating.
Can anyone suggest a textbook that I can borrow from a public library? -
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