OT: Rental Properties - Page 2

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    Anonymous
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    I’ve just started investing in rental properties as a way to supplement my income each month. Anyone else here a real estate investor, landlord, property manager, real estate agent/broker? Any tips for the newbie?

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    #634842
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    I am currently investing in 2 Residential locations, but have equity to put into the investments.Regarding leverage, my opinion is that it is best to not be leveraged at all if possible. My plan is 1) $10K emergency fund and 2) Apply 100% of the net rental income against the notes. Both locations will be paid in full in approximately 3 years adding up to $150K capital investment, and I can then save to pay cash for the next investment.

    At one time, I was in banking doing investment loans like this, but it would take almost 10 yrs for them to begin seeing any decent improvement in net worth. So, I would suggest a maximum of 60% leverage on rental investments.

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    I have no debt on either of my investments right now. Almost took a note on a third, but my banker advised me against purchasing that particular property, as he thought my rental projections were a tad bit off.

    Everything I've read on the biggerpockets website today seems to really encourage leveraging, but it's something that pushes me out of my comfort zone.

    The biggest thing that I struggle with is finding/evaluating houses that would be considered a good investment. I don't have much experience in flipping or rehabing, so i have to buy turn key properties. I've also been burned on buying in a “bad” location. I've been told that the number 1 mistake people make is overpaying for properties, but its hard to find what I'm looking for within the 2% rule.

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    San, that's sound advice. Leverage greatly improves your Cash on cash returns which is why it's recommended, but it also bears the most risk.

    For instance if a $100k property throws off $2k/year net income and you put down $10k cash to secure the loan to buy it. Your CASH ON CASH is 20% ($2k/$10k). However if you plopped out $100k cash to buy it your Cash on Cash return is a mere 2%. This is why leverage is preached over and over. You can get better returns on your cash available to invest.

    I think somewhere closer to the middle is where I'll feel most comfortable. Fully leveraged and a few months of vacancies really begin to hurt and your options for exiting the property in a hurry really fall. Partially leveraged (40-50%) and you've got more options and lower debt service burden. I'm willing to trade that for a smaller Cash on Cash return.

    Another thing to consider, when you're leveraged you make money from 3 sources: 1. Net cashflow 2. Principal paydown (from tenants) and 3. property appreciation (hopefully).

    If you're free and clear, you make money from 2 sources: net cashflow and property appreciation. You could argue that your cashflow is higher, but the thing to remember is you paid down the principal initially (buy paying cash), thus lowering your returns.

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