Do I have a chance to PASS

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  • #191454
    tashechka
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    Hi guys,

    I understand, that my questions would sound a little bit silly, bu I really need your opinion. I tried to pass BEC and AUD 5 year ago with no success. Now I decided continue my degree and enrolled myself into grad school.

    I’m more interested in updates have been implement to all four parts.

    Thanks for any feedback and replies.

    TL

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  • #642602
    StephAV
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    I tried 3 of 4 parts fresh out of college, back in 2005, scored in the 50's and decided it wasn't for me. So here I am 9 and half years later… I hopefully take my last section on Monday. I think it is possible. You just have to decide that you are going to do it and study however much it takes.

    FAR - 7/13 - 72, 11/13- 74, 2/14- 82!!! Best score ever (for me)!!!
    BEC - 1/14 - 75!!! Perfect score! First Pass! YAY!!!
    AUD - 8/14 - 80!!!
    REG - 5/14 - 72, 10/14 - 66, 1/15 - 78 - DONE FOREVER!!!
    I did 5 of the UNA and CPAExcel classes to earn units.

    #642603
    Martin
    Participant

    I'm more interested in updates have been implement to all four parts.

    You have to do some research as there have been many changes. The main one is that now the exam is 60% MC and 40% Simulations. I know 5 years ago it was 70% MC 20%Simulations and 10% memo for FAR,REG, And Audit. This makes the exam a little more difficult than before cause now your brain can get up to 60% credit for recognizing the answers on a A to D format, and 40% credit for recalling them. This means that your brain will have to actually learn the material in depth to be able to pass. Bottom line, the exam is harder now than 5 years ago. The following might be able to explain to you what Im talking about.

    Multiple choice, matching, and true-false questions require you to recognize the correct answer. Essay, fill-in-the-blank, and short answer questions require you to recall the information. Most of us agree that recognition tests are easier than recall tests. Why? In recognition tests, the information to be recalled is present, along with attractive alternatives. The task of recognition is to select the correct answer from among the alternatives. In recall, on the other hand, no possible answers are available (unless you cheat) but have to be generated. Unless you have absolutely no memory for the information, recognition is “easier” than recall.

    Does the brain find recognition easier? What parts of the brain are active when recognizing information? What same and different parts of the brain are active while recalling information? Cabeza, Kapur, Craik, McIntosh, Houle, and Tulving used PET to address these questions.

    Healthy young university students performed recognition and recall tasks while lying in the PET scan machine. In the study phase, the participant was shown word pairs, such as parents-piano. In the recognition condition, the participant was shown either the correct word pair again, such as parents-piano, or a pair in which the second word was incorrect, such as parents-wall. The participant was instructed to say the second word if he or she thought it was the correct one or else say “pass.” In the recall condition, the participant was shown the first word paired with word, such as parents-word?, and was instructed to say the second word out loud if it was remembered or else say “pass.”

    The PET scans identified all brain activity occurring during these tasks. Brain activity during the recognition tasks would include that related to recognition but also activity related to reading, speaking, and generally attending to the task. To eliminate activity not related to the specific type of memory they were studying, Cabeza et al. had participants also read word pairs while being scanned. They subtracted brain activity resulting from this task from each of the memory tasks to obtain measures of brain activity related to specific recognition and recall processes.

    KAREN: CAN YOU GET A HOLD OF DRAWINGS OF BRAINS SO I CAN LABEL THESE AREAS? DRAWING1: Right ventral surface of the cortex and cerebellum (like the top part of Fig 3.21 in Weitan, 4th ed. but unlabeled) DRAWING 2: Right medial surface of the cortex (like fig 3.18 in Weitan but unlabeled and without the limbic system colored in) I do have links to the virtual brain in For Students, but a drawing here would make the article summary comprehendible.

    The right prefrontal cortex was active for both recognition and recall. This part of the brain is important for attempting to recover information in memory and is activated in all memory attempts, regardless of the success of the attempt. Similarly the anterior cingulate area was active for both memory tasks. The anterior cingulate cortex has been implicated in the initiation of many types of human behavior.

    One brain area was more active during recognition than recall. The right inferior parietal cortex, which is important for perceptual processing was activated during recognition. Cabeza et al. argued that this area should be active if recognition involves comparing the presented word, such as piano, with perceptual information from the study phase, such as whether the physical stimulus, piano, was seen during the study phase.

    Four brain areas were more active during recall than during recognition. Although the anterior cingulate area was activated in both memory tasks, it was more active during recall. Cabeza et al. speculated that this is because recall involves more initiation of activity to generate a response.

    Three additional brain areas were more active during recall than recognition. These were the left cerebellum, the right thalamus area, and the right globus palladius. These three brain areas, along with the right prefrontal cortex, form a cognitive cerebello-thalamo-cortical pathway that has recently been traced out in the brain. Cabeza et al. conclude that the pathway that goes from the left cerebellum to the right frontal cortex is important for recall of episodic memory, such as the words in their paired associate task.

    Cabeza et al. identified more brain areas that were important for recognition and recall than have been found with lesion studies. They concluded that lesion studies and neuroimaging studies complement each other and need to be integrated in cognitive neuroscience investigations of memory. In addition, they concluded that, since fewer brain areas are activated by recognition than recall, that recognition is indeed easier than recall.

    Through God all things can happen!

    “You never fail until you stop trying.”
    ― Albert Einstein
    When I was young, I used to admire intelligent people;as I grow older, I admire kind people.
    “Just keep swimming, just keep swimming.”

    FAR= 72-84
    Audit= 73-82
    BEC= 74-75
    Reg=77

    #642604
    lsutigers03
    Participant

    I took FAR and BEC in 2010 and I got a 56 and a 55 respectively. After that I told myself that being a CPA wasn't going to happen for me. Three years later I realized that I didn't want my extra year of school to be a waste so I was going to give it another try. I knocked out REG and FAR but struggled mightily with BEC and AUD. I kept studying and kept trying and on my last try before losing REG I finally passed both BEC and AUD. Back in 2010 if you would have told me that I would be a CPA I would have laughed in your face. Today just over 4 years from those miserable failures I'm a licensed CPA. Trust me if you make studying a top priority you will pass.

    Every exam has new things that are always becoming testable just make sure you get up to date study materials. As far as format goes BEC is no longer all MC it now has all the written communication and AUD no longer has written communication (used to be 10% of your grade) and the weights changed. MC is now 60% of your grade down from 70% and simulations are 40% of your grade up from 20%. The link below details the major change since you last sat for the exam.

    https://www.journalofaccountancy.com/issues/2010/may/20102565

    REG - 78
    BEC - 74, 67, 69, 69, 70, 79
    FAR - 76
    AUD - 69, 69, 69, 74, 85

    Licensed Louisiana CPA

    “You never fail until you stop trying.”
    ― Albert Einstein

    #642605
    tashechka
    Member

    Thank you StephAV, and good luck with your final one. Thanks for support

    #642606
    tashechka
    Member

    Thank you all, I see it is doable no matter how much time passed. All depends on me and my willing.

    Respectively to all,

    Tatyana K

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