Crazy to quit?

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  • #196196
    sushi222
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    Hey guys –

    I spent a year at a public accounting firm then switched to a big 4. It’s been a month and I am thinking of quitting.

    You see , I am from Asia and my English is not so good . My team does not seem to like me, probably due to social skills. I am cautious about receiving a sub-par review and being fired.

    Should I look for a new job now? I know it seems kind of silly but if I get bad review what will happen? I am afraid to ask to switch teams.

    Appreciate all your help!

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  • #687620
    JIA991199
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    I would suggest to concentrate on your work. Don't worry about it too much. Always wanting to work for one of the big 4s, how do you like it so far? Would people be able to have time to study while working for big 4s?

    #687621
    howmany74s
    Member

    Hi sushi – Try to relax a bit at work. Not your team but at least 2 partners hired you so obviously they thought your English is good enough for the job.

    Focus on improving your skills, try to attend to firm events and meet with new people. That is the best way to switch teams instead of involving HR in the process.

    And last – are you planning to stay long term in the US? If yes, prioritize improving your language skills. English is not my native language either but I worked hard to improve my accent and writing over the past 4 years to a point that no one asks me where I am from anymore, and surprised to hear that I wasn't born here.

    Good luck!

    #687622
    fuzyfro89
    Participant

    The work is only 1 part of the job. You have to train yourself and learn how to be socially competent if you want to be successful. This does NOT mean you need to be the life of the party or friends with everybody, but you DO need to learn how to be friendly and social… that goes for both the audit team and the client.

    Start with very basic questions when you're talking with people informally (lunch, coffee breaks, etc.) such as:

    – How was your weekend?

    – Any vacation plans for later this year?

    – Weather (rain sucks, sun is awesome, snow is ehh, and so on)

    – Hobbies

    – Favorite tv shows or movies (work appropriate)

    Again, you don't have to know everything, but don't be that silent awkward person at lunch or in the audit room. You won't be hated, but you also will have trouble fitting in. You won't get fired for that, so don't worry about that.

    Avoid “taboo” topics (different in different cultures, so be aware of that). For example, in the US, politics are mostly taboo in a professional setting. Every person is different, so there's no behavior that will work for everyone. Just work on at least being kind and professional at work and that's a great start. Over time, you can work on trying to improve social skills.

    Don't change yourself just to fit in. If you feel that you would be doing something you feel is immoral or that goes against what you want, then just realize that the culture is not for everyone. Many people (myself included) left the big 4 due to a mismatch between how they operate and how the firm works.

    Is there more to the story? Do you feel the team is excluding you or something more than just what you said above?

    #687623
    Crunchtime
    Participant

    Great post Fuzy!! I have to agree if you english is that bad it doesn't matter what firm you go to, it will hinder you in every job. Every firm/job you need good communication skills to be successful. If you feel it is lacking you have to focus and improve that aspect. I used to hate talking to people and I realized it is a matter of effort.

    I wouldn't quit if you want to stay in public accounting. It sounds like your confidence is lacking a bit, remember they hired you and they want you to succeed!! Stay focus and stay positive!!

    AUD-77
    BEC-70,73,68,74 SH##!!!!!, 80
    REG-73,76
    FAR -74,82

    Ethics here I come!!

    #687624
    UM1868
    Member

    Also, you will not be fired, Take it from someone who works in BIG 4 and has seen co-workers leave. You will be overworked until you leave if they don't seem to like you.

    Everyone mentions how they don't care about you, but if you produce good work, and express concerns to your mentors or managers, they usually work with you.

    It is cheaper for them to keep you, instead of firing you, paying severance/unemployment.

    Add it up. If they work you 80-100 hours a week, and you do subpar/okay work, they are getting okay work for a very cheap price per hour/input. If they pay you unemployment, a fat severance, and whatever money they owe you, they are doing so with no input/hours in return.

    So they will work you until you quit. You will not be fired. I would work on communication and stay if you enjoy Big 4. If not, tough it out 1-2 years and then leave.

    Bec-76 (7/14)
    Aud-81 (8/14)
    Reg-82 (7/15)
    Far- 82 (10/15)

    Moral of the story, don't do your CPA while working in Big 4 Public Accounting.

    #687625
    MaLoTu
    Participant

    Is your lack of English skills making the others' jobs harder?

    The only reason I ask is because I am currently working on a group project for school. Two of my team members are international students. Their written and spoken English is not good. One other student and I have had to rewrite all their assignments because it is a group grade. I do not have anything personally against these two individuals (they are very sweet), but I have had to do far more than my share and in the end we are getting the same grade. If this is possibly the case, then please try not to take it personally (as in thinking they do not like you), but rather that the language barrier may cause an disproportionate allocation of duties among the group.

    Don't quit. Like another poster mentioned, if you want to stay here and work permanently it would be great for you to become more fluent in the language. I know someone who came over from the middle east about 4 years ago. She had a heavy accent even though she learned English in school. She watched youtube videos on how to perfect American English and now you would never know she didn't learn English as her first language.

    #687626
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    sushi, if your group doesn't like you, why did they hire you in the first place?

    #687627
    Last Chance CPA
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    A lot of it could be in your head. Big 4 ppl can be jackasses sometimes, and may not like you even if you had great social and language skills. They dislike ppl who are overweight, non-douchey, non Type A, etc. I thought Big 4 was too cut throat for me and I was too chill for the environment…

    FAR - 76
    AUD - 75
    BEC - 75
    REG - 76

    Now I need some experience!!! And some networking...

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