REG Study Group Q4 2014 - Page 68

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  • #630178
    Mamabear
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    Oh–And you're both right…my question's answer was C! Yayy!

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    #630179
    Tax lady
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    @mama here ya go.

    This answer is correct. The requirement is to determine the amount of Tatum's recognized gain on the exchange. Generally, no gain or loss is recognized on the exchange of business or investment property for property of a like kind. Since like-kind means the same class of property, an exchange of farmland for an office building qualifies as a like-kind exchange. However, in a like-kind exchange, a realized gain ($400,000 − $250,000 = $150,000 in this case) will be recognized to the extent of unlike property (i.e., boot) received. Here, Tatum's assumption of the $70,000 mortgage on the acquired office building is treated as boot paid, while the $120,000 mortgage on the farmland exchanged is treated as boot received. These mortgages are offset and result in Tatum receiving net boot and a recognized gain of $50,000.

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    #630180
    WANNABE_CPA
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    wait a sec, i got it, but this explanation is confusing now : in a like-kind exchange, a realized gain ($400,000 − $250,000 = $150,000 in this case)

    I thought it will $420000 – $370000

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    #630181
    WANNABE_CPA
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    400000 is the FMV of Old property , why use that?

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    #630182
    Mamabear
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    Sorry–Had to go remove my signature because I was tired of scrolling so far to see one post. You don't realize how much of a page those take up until you remove them.

    Ok so how is the realized gain calculated? Where does the $400K come from? The FMV of the farmhouse? I didn't think we took that into consideration.

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    #630183
    Mamabear
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    Exactly Wannabe–that's what I thought too!

    Actually I calculated it as $350K-70K= 280K and then subtract ($250K-120K) of $130K to get the $150K. 3 different ways! I hate how they try to trick us on purpose. No bueno.

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    #630184
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    yes i feel they are just using anything anywhere forgetting what they told us in teh material… ugghhh

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    #630185
    Tax lady
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    This is how I worked it. (I didn't even pay attention to the explanation from Wiley). I said 350,000 – 70,000 – 250,000 + 120,000 = 150,000. Compared that to NET BOOK of 50,000 (120,000-70,000) and used the lowest.

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    #630186
    Tax lady
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    HAHA. Net boot, not net book.

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    #630187
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    I just looked through similar questions in the Wiley book and they don't ever reference the FMV of the old property when calculating the Realized gain. I think it has just been a coincidence in both of those questions that the FMV of the old property is the exact amount as what you use to calculate realized gain, but it actually isn't a factor at all.

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    #630188
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    ok, so i thought mortgage received will be added as boot, and i worked it out like: (Amt realized) 350000 + 70000 – Adjusted basis (250000 + 120000)

    Is that wrong way of doing it, as becker doesnt mentioned any other kinda boot for this

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    #630189
    Mamabear
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    Ok, here is one that doesn't even list the FMB of the old building so I know it's not a factor.

    On 07/01/13 Riley exchanged investment real property, with an adjusted basis of $160K and subject to a mortgage of $70K, and received from Wilson $30K in cash and other investment real property having a FMV of $250K. Wilson assumed the mortgage. What is Riley's recognized gain in 2013 on the exchange?

    A $30K

    B $70K

    C $90K

    D $100K

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    #630190
    Tax lady
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    I think you would deduct the 70,000 not add. Check this video out.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX2vmSGlbkE

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    #630191
    Tax lady
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    @mama is it D?

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    #630192
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    is it $30k ?

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