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August 30, 2014 at 3:34 pm #188296
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October 31, 2014 at 3:08 am #629904
leglockParticipantmy answer is b
gain realized is 3000
boot received is 2500 (3500-1000) which is also gain recognized
gain deferred is 500 (3000-2500)
basis new is 17000 (fmv new rec'd 17,500 – gain deferred 500)
October 31, 2014 at 3:47 am #629905
kappa1032ParticipantB is correct!
Explanation
Calculations for “New Basis on Like-Kind Property with Liability Assumed (Boot Paid) and Liability Relieved (Boot Received)”
Gain/Loss Realized:
Amount realized
=
Fair market value of new auto + Boot received – Boot paid – Adjusted basis of auto given up
=
$17,500 fair market value new auto + $3,500 in relieved liabilities (boot received) –
$1,000 in liabilities assumed (boot paid) $17,000 adjusted basis of the old auto
($35,000 cost – $18,000 accumulated depreciation)
=
$3,000 gain
Gain/Loss Recognized:
Gain recognized
=
$2,500 [the lesser of realized gain of $3,000 or net relief from liabilities (boot received) of $2,500]
Basis of New Property:
New basis
=
Adjusted basis of property given up + Gain recognized – Boot received + Boot paid
=
$17,000 + $2,500 – $3,500 + $1,000
=
$17,000
FAR - 81
REG - 74, 87
AUD - 88
BEC - 88Finally.
“The only guarantee for failure is to stop trying”
― John C. MaxwellOctober 31, 2014 at 3:47 am #629906
kappa1032ParticipantAlternate calculation: $17,500 FMV new property – $500 deferred gain = $17,000 basis of new property.
Choice “b” is correct. $17,000 is the basis of the new auto [$17,000 adjusted basis of the old auto ($35,000 cost – $18,000 accumulated depreciation) + $2,500 gain recognized – $2,500 net relief from liabilities (boot received) ($3,500 relief from liability (boot received) – $1,000 liability assumed (boot paid))].
Choice “c” is incorrect. A basis of $14,500 ignores the $2,500 gain recognized.
Choice “a” is incorrect. $17,500 is the fair market value of the new auto.
Choice “d” is incorrect. A basis of $19,500 adds the adjusted basis of the old property and the gain recognized, and ignores the boots paid and received.
FAR - 81
REG - 74, 87
AUD - 88
BEC - 88Finally.
“The only guarantee for failure is to stop trying”
― John C. MaxwellOctober 31, 2014 at 3:47 am #629907
kappa1032ParticipantAlternate calculation: $17,500 FMV new property – $500 deferred gain = $17,000 basis of new property.
Choice “b” is correct. $17,000 is the basis of the new auto [$17,000 adjusted basis of the old auto ($35,000 cost – $18,000 accumulated depreciation) + $2,500 gain recognized – $2,500 net relief from liabilities (boot received) ($3,500 relief from liability (boot received) – $1,000 liability assumed (boot paid))].
Choice “c” is incorrect. A basis of $14,500 ignores the $2,500 gain recognized.
Choice “a” is incorrect. $17,500 is the fair market value of the new auto.
Choice “d” is incorrect. A basis of $19,500 adds the adjusted basis of the old property and the gain recognized, and ignores the boots paid and received.
FAR - 81
REG - 74, 87
AUD - 88
BEC - 88Finally.
“The only guarantee for failure is to stop trying”
― John C. MaxwellOctober 31, 2014 at 3:52 am #629908
kappa1032Participant@ leglock – when you calculated boot received as $2,500 ($3,500 – $1,000) – that's the net boot received, which I totally get.
What i don't get is why the previous question that I presented did not take into account “net boot received”, but rather just boot received? That is why I'm so confused. Is it because the $1,000 boot paid was in cash rather than a relieved liability?
FAR - 81
REG - 74, 87
AUD - 88
BEC - 88Finally.
“The only guarantee for failure is to stop trying”
― John C. MaxwellOctober 31, 2014 at 4:06 am #629909
AnonymousInactiveDid you memorize any sections in the 1933 Act, 1934 Act and SOX?
October 31, 2014 at 4:10 am #629910
leglockParticipant@ kappa
when you recieve and pay cash, you do NOT net. so if your gain realized is 5, cash recd is 4 and cash paid is 1, u will recognize 4. I believe you never net anything agaainst cash you receive.
if you give up and assume a liability, you DO net.so if your gain realized is 5, liability u give away is 4 and liability u assume is 1, u recognize 3
@cpaby2015
i did memorize the sections becker presented. i want to say that its section 11 from 1933 and possibly 10b from 1934. I took the test in late july so i could be wrong on that.
October 31, 2014 at 4:21 am #629911
AnonymousInactiveOctober 31, 2014 at 4:22 am #629912
kappa1032Participant@leglock – do you have a reference to your explanation that i could find? I'm seeing different answers from different people. What about when realized gain is 5, cash paid is 1 and extra trailer received is $3. By Becker's explanation, recognized gain should be 3.
I searched for this in the forums and found this thread where they actually talked about the question I had: https://www.another71.com/cpa-exam-forum/topic/like-kind-exchange-gain-recognition
In their discussion, they say that if you receive and pay cash, you DO net. SO CONFUSED!!
FAR - 81
REG - 74, 87
AUD - 88
BEC - 88Finally.
“The only guarantee for failure is to stop trying”
― John C. MaxwellOctober 31, 2014 at 4:25 am #629913
leglockParticipantyes, i do recall 404 of sox as well.
October 31, 2014 at 4:18 pm #629914October 31, 2014 at 5:17 pm #629915
AnonymousInactiveDid bonus depreciation get renewed by Congress for 2014?
October 31, 2014 at 6:40 pm #629916
leglockParticipant@kappa:
I pulled out my college textbook when studying for REG to get some clarity on the different iterations of how the problems could be asked and it stated that consideration paid in form of cash or mortgage assumed can be used to offset a liability you give away. I then had handwritten in that cash paid can't be used to offset cash rec'd. So it defintely could be incorrect although I feel as though I had worked a problem whereby this was the appropriate treatment. It appears your resource may be better than mine, so I potentially learned the material incorrectly. I will see if i can find a problem with cash rec'd and paid, and post what I find.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
edit — I reviewed that thread you linked to. Unfortunately, DJN linked to something Becker prepared but for me, it was a 404 error which is too bad bc it sounded like it had some good info. Based on the link you provided, I would agree that it seems cash paid can be netted against cash received. I do see that someone said u can net similar items only, but in my textbook it stated you can net cash paid against liability u give away. So now I am thoroughly confused about the rules and just lucky that I finished reg in july. I am curious as to the proper treatment and will be researching it further.
October 31, 2014 at 6:43 pm #629917
jeffKeymasterActually no, no that you mention it.
One part of the answer I left out was this:
Be aware that more than 50 tax breaks that expired in 2013 have not been extended to 2014 as of the July 2014 publication date of this review; they are currently in the U.S. Senate awaiting approval.
October 31, 2014 at 8:20 pm #629918
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