REG Study Group Q2 2016 - Page 4

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  • #767088
    jonm857
    Participant

    I need help understanding like-kind exchanges. This simple problem is confusing me, and I'm clearly not grasping something right.

    Question: Leker exchanged a van that was used exclusively for business and had an adjusted tax basis of $20,000 for a new van. The new van had a fair market value of $10,000, and Leker also received $3,000 in cash. What was Leker's tax basis in the acquired van?

    Answer: $17,000

    This is computed by taking the OLD VAN's basis and subtracting the boot: 20,000 – 3,000.

    ???????

    Why then in other like-kind exchange problems do you use a different formula to calculate the new asset basis?

    In other problems, you use this to get the new basis: FMV of new asset – boot received + boot paid

    Can somebody help me with this? Thanks in advance.

    Jon

    B - 81
    A - 87
    R - 73
    F - July 5th

    #767089
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Below is my improvised set of formulas I've been using for Like-Kind exchanges:

    Realized G/L = FMV (Old) – AB (Old)
    OR
    Realized G/L = FMV (New) – AB (Old) + Boot Received – Boot Paid

    Recognized Gain = The lower of Realized Gain OR Boot Received
    {Recognize ZERO, if the lower value is below 0;
    Remember: Losses are never recognized in like-kind exchanges}

    Deferred G/L = Realized G/L – Recognized G/L

    Basis (New) = AB (Old) + Recognized G – Boot Received + Boot Paid
    OR
    Basis (New) = FMV (New) + Deferred L – Deferred G

    Steps:
    Determine:
    1) Realized G/L
    2) Recognized G/L
    3) Basis of new property

    Realized G/L:
    +10,000 FV Of New
    -20,000 AB of Old
    +3,000 Cash Received/Boot Received
    ——————-
    = – $7,000

    Recognized G/L:
    Lower of Realized Gain or Boot Received:
    = 0
    {Recognize ZERO, if the lower value is below 0;
    Remember: Losses are never recognized in like-kind exchanges}

    Basis (New)
    + 20,000 ……. AB of Old
    + 0 …………….. Recognized Gain
    -3,000 ………… Boot Received
    ———————-
    = $17,000
    ============

    #767090
    jonm857
    Participant

    @ Amor –

    I follow your math, but the book is saying something else to me. Could you please elaborate on why the adjusted basis of the old asset is being used to compute the new basis here? Here's the formula in Becker, R4 pg 18:

    Basis in like kind property when boot is received = FMV of property received – deferred gain + deferred loss

    Now having said that… the solution to problem says this:

    “As the transaction results in a loss to Leker (he received an asset worth $10,000 plus $3,000 cash less a $20,000 tax basis equals $7,000 loss) no gain is recognized and the $3,000 received reduces his basis in the new asset.”

    So in my mind I'm thinking this… $10,000 – $3,000 = $7,000 new basis.

    B - 81
    A - 87
    R - 73
    F - July 5th

    #767091
    jonm857
    Participant

    Okay, wait a second… the formula makes sense now.

    $10,000 (FMV) – $0 deferred gain + 7000 deferred loss = $17,000 new basis

    At least that makes sense now, although I'm not sure why becker would present it in a different format from the textbook.

    B - 81
    A - 87
    R - 73
    F - July 5th

    #767092
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Tax rules for basis, income recognition, and deferred G/L don't really make sense to me. So I am unable to elaborate on that. It should be under Section 1031 of IRC Code.
    I feel lucky to have come up with that trick for LKE. I wish to create formulas for various entities, but I just could never get them straight.

    #767093
    jonm857
    Participant

    @ Amor –

    We're good. It makes sense using the guidelines in the text. The MCQs show the text's formula as an “alternate calculation”, but to me it should be the primary calculation. But hey, we are GOOD.

    REGULATION – I AM COMING FOR YOU!!! WITH A VENGEANCE!!!!!!!

    B - 81
    A - 87
    R - 73
    F - July 5th

    #767094
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @Mariam

    You are taking the exams in the exact same order I chose! 🙂

    Do you have any REG study tips since you've started? What review course are you using?

    #767095
    yawen
    Participant

    Can someone explain “Negotiation” under Business Law.I am really confused about this subject.
    Thank you in advance.

    #767096
    jonm857
    Participant

    Commercial paper is the worst. It's so boring yet so intricately complicated.

    B - 81
    A - 87
    R - 73
    F - July 5th

    #767097
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Does the small corporation who has the gross average receipt of $1m or less for any prior 3 years can use the CASH method of accounting even though it has Inventory?

    #767098
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hello everyone. I need your help.
    I failed this in January. I am retaking in April 22
    I did Becker sample test I got 62 which is obviously my exam exact score. What should I do?. I completed all MCQ and simulations in Becker. I need to supplement with something else. Any recommendations please. Does the Ninja MCQ pacakge include simulations or that is seperate? Please let me know.

    Than you

    #767099
    monikernc
    Participant

    Ammar…yes, ninja mcq include sims – i am using the mcq with the ninja book for first attempt. since you have becker you may want to consider ninja notes with the mcq. you can see a sample at the notes link at top of forum home page and choose REG.

    FAR 7/25/15 76!
    AUD 10/30/15 93
    BEC 2/27/16 82
    REG 5/23/16 88!
    Ninja Book and MCQ and the forum - all the way!!!
    and a little thing i like to call, time and effort!
    if you want things to change, you have to do something different

    #767100
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Monikernc. Thanks for your reponse. So if I but the MCQ for 47.00 dollars for Reg only, I will be able to do multiple choice practice as well as sims. Is that what you mean?

    #767101
    monikernc
    Participant

    Yes, for $47 you get 1947 mcq's and 75 sims. Access is for 3 months. It is a great product. I used the mcq for aud and bec.
    It also includes practice exams.

    See a list of the sims by topic here: https://www.another71.com/cpa-exam-forum/topic/ninja-mcq-simulations-complete-topic-list-by-sim

    FAR 7/25/15 76!
    AUD 10/30/15 93
    BEC 2/27/16 82
    REG 5/23/16 88!
    Ninja Book and MCQ and the forum - all the way!!!
    and a little thing i like to call, time and effort!
    if you want things to change, you have to do something different

    #767102
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @Ano

    The following are permitted to use Cash Basis Method of Accounting:
    {1M/5M/10M}
    1. $1M or less average annual gross receipts
    2. $5M or less average annual gross receipts for the most recent 3 years
    3. $10M or less annual gross receipts by some select TPs
    4. Farming or tree-raising business
    5. Qualified personal service corporation

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