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March 18, 2016 at 4:44 am #200897
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March 23, 2016 at 3:20 am #767088
jonm857ParticipantI need help understanding like-kind exchanges. This simple problem is confusing me, and I'm clearly not grasping something right.
Question: Leker exchanged a van that was used exclusively for business and had an adjusted tax basis of $20,000 for a new van. The new van had a fair market value of $10,000, and Leker also received $3,000 in cash. What was Leker's tax basis in the acquired van?
Answer: $17,000
This is computed by taking the OLD VAN's basis and subtracting the boot: 20,000 – 3,000.
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Why then in other like-kind exchange problems do you use a different formula to calculate the new asset basis?
In other problems, you use this to get the new basis: FMV of new asset – boot received + boot paid
Can somebody help me with this? Thanks in advance.
Jon
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F - July 5thMarch 23, 2016 at 3:47 am #767089
AnonymousInactiveBelow is my improvised set of formulas I've been using for Like-Kind exchanges:
Realized G/L = FMV (Old) – AB (Old)
OR
Realized G/L = FMV (New) – AB (Old) + Boot Received – Boot PaidRecognized Gain = The lower of Realized Gain OR Boot Received
{Recognize ZERO, if the lower value is below 0;
Remember: Losses are never recognized in like-kind exchanges}Deferred G/L = Realized G/L – Recognized G/L
Basis (New) = AB (Old) + Recognized G – Boot Received + Boot Paid
OR
Basis (New) = FMV (New) + Deferred L – Deferred GSteps:
Determine:
1) Realized G/L
2) Recognized G/L
3) Basis of new propertyRealized G/L:
+10,000 FV Of New
-20,000 AB of Old
+3,000 Cash Received/Boot Received
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= – $7,000Recognized G/L:
Lower of Realized Gain or Boot Received:
= 0
{Recognize ZERO, if the lower value is below 0;
Remember: Losses are never recognized in like-kind exchanges}Basis (New)
+ 20,000 ……. AB of Old
+ 0 …………….. Recognized Gain
-3,000 ………… Boot Received
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= $17,000
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jonm857Participant@ Amor –
I follow your math, but the book is saying something else to me. Could you please elaborate on why the adjusted basis of the old asset is being used to compute the new basis here? Here's the formula in Becker, R4 pg 18:
Basis in like kind property when boot is received = FMV of property received – deferred gain + deferred loss
Now having said that… the solution to problem says this:
“As the transaction results in a loss to Leker (he received an asset worth $10,000 plus $3,000 cash less a $20,000 tax basis equals $7,000 loss) no gain is recognized and the $3,000 received reduces his basis in the new asset.”
So in my mind I'm thinking this… $10,000 – $3,000 = $7,000 new basis.
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F - July 5thMarch 23, 2016 at 4:25 am #767091
jonm857ParticipantOkay, wait a second… the formula makes sense now.
$10,000 (FMV) – $0 deferred gain + 7000 deferred loss = $17,000 new basis
At least that makes sense now, although I'm not sure why becker would present it in a different format from the textbook.
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F - July 5thMarch 23, 2016 at 4:36 am #767092
AnonymousInactiveTax rules for basis, income recognition, and deferred G/L don't really make sense to me. So I am unable to elaborate on that. It should be under Section 1031 of IRC Code.
I feel lucky to have come up with that trick for LKE. I wish to create formulas for various entities, but I just could never get them straight.March 23, 2016 at 4:58 am #767093
jonm857Participant@ Amor –
We're good. It makes sense using the guidelines in the text. The MCQs show the text's formula as an “alternate calculation”, but to me it should be the primary calculation. But hey, we are GOOD.
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F - July 5thMarch 23, 2016 at 5:38 pm #767094
AnonymousInactive@Mariam
You are taking the exams in the exact same order I chose! 🙂
Do you have any REG study tips since you've started? What review course are you using?
March 24, 2016 at 3:23 am #767095
yawenParticipantCan someone explain “Negotiation” under Business Law.I am really confused about this subject.
Thank you in advance.March 24, 2016 at 2:28 pm #767096
jonm857ParticipantCommercial paper is the worst. It's so boring yet so intricately complicated.
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F - July 5thMarch 25, 2016 at 8:52 pm #767097
AnonymousInactiveDoes the small corporation who has the gross average receipt of $1m or less for any prior 3 years can use the CASH method of accounting even though it has Inventory?
March 25, 2016 at 9:32 pm #767098
AnonymousInactiveHello everyone. I need your help.
I failed this in January. I am retaking in April 22
I did Becker sample test I got 62 which is obviously my exam exact score. What should I do?. I completed all MCQ and simulations in Becker. I need to supplement with something else. Any recommendations please. Does the Ninja MCQ pacakge include simulations or that is seperate? Please let me know.Than you
March 25, 2016 at 11:39 pm #767099
monikerncParticipantAmmar…yes, ninja mcq include sims – i am using the mcq with the ninja book for first attempt. since you have becker you may want to consider ninja notes with the mcq. you can see a sample at the notes link at top of forum home page and choose REG.
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if you want things to change, you have to do something differentMarch 26, 2016 at 12:10 am #767100
AnonymousInactiveMarch 26, 2016 at 2:01 am #767101
monikerncParticipantYes, for $47 you get 1947 mcq's and 75 sims. Access is for 3 months. It is a great product. I used the mcq for aud and bec.
It also includes practice exams.See a list of the sims by topic here: https://www.another71.com/cpa-exam-forum/topic/ninja-mcq-simulations-complete-topic-list-by-sim
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AUD 10/30/15 93
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REG 5/23/16 88!
Ninja Book and MCQ and the forum - all the way!!!
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if you want things to change, you have to do something differentMarch 26, 2016 at 2:16 am #767102
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The following are permitted to use Cash Basis Method of Accounting:
{1M/5M/10M}
1. $1M or less average annual gross receipts
2. $5M or less average annual gross receipts for the most recent 3 years
3. $10M or less annual gross receipts by some select TPs
4. Farming or tree-raising business
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