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September 4, 2017 at 12:33 pm #1620148
jeffKeymasterWelcome to the Q4 2017 CPA Exam Study Group for REG. 🙂
Introduce yourselves and let your fellow NINJAs know when you plan to take your REG exam.
The Five Steps (NINJA Framework): https://www.another71.com/pass-the-cpa-exam/
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September 25, 2017 at 11:34 pm #1638820
pcunniffParticipantHavin trouble understanding this ?
A review of herrings year 2 records disclosed the following:
Wages 18k
Taxable int/qualifying div 4K
Schedule c income 32k
Rental loss from residential property 35k
Limited partnership loss (5k)Herring was an active participant and was a limited partner in the pship. What is herrings agi?
A)29k
B)14k
C) 19k
D) 54kThe answer for this is a. I don't understand why the limited partnership loss is not included. CPA wiley says that interests in pships are considered a passive activity. Can someone explain why this pship loss does not count as a passive loss?
September 26, 2017 at 1:12 am #1638853
pharaohParticipant@pcunniff – you know how for capital loss you have a limit of 3k loss against ordinary income and 25k for rental loss, you have a limit of zero loss against ordinary income from passive loss and you carry it forward until you have a passive income to offset.
You take passive loss to the extent of any passive income you have. so if you are a limited partner in two companies A & B
From Company A, you have 10k income
From company B, you have 7k lossyou take 3k income to 1040.
If Company A, you have 10k income
and company B, you have 12k lossyou offset all the income and you will have 2k loss carryforward, it doesn't offset ordinary income.
FAR 8/2016
AUD 1/2017
REG TBD
BEC TBDSeptember 26, 2017 at 7:12 am #1638868
Operation_CPAParticipantSeptember 26, 2017 at 10:12 am #1638916
pcunniffParticipant@pharaoh thanks for that explanation. I understand that concept…
My question is – why is the limited partnership loss not included? I have read in numerous sources that partnership income and losses are considered “passive”. Why would this loss for “Limited Partnerships” not be included?
September 26, 2017 at 11:15 am #1638976
pharaohParticipant@pcunniff Limited Partnerships loss is passive loss, the question doesn't have a passive income to offset it on Schedule E. You only have the rental loss and partnership loss.
Interest and Dividends are Schedule B and they look like passive income if that's what you are thinking but they are not.
Did I answer the question? You already said the right answer there.
FAR 8/2016
AUD 1/2017
REG TBD
BEC TBDSeptember 26, 2017 at 2:17 pm #1639069
MattParticipant@pcunniff Passive losses are not included because they're written in the tax code to not be included, a lot of tax regs are not a science they just are.
The exemptions where you include the passive losses are exemptions because they are no more no less.
Just keep in mind the 25k rental loss when actively managed.
Also keep in mind if the partnership is dissolved the losses can be offset.FAR 74
September 26, 2017 at 3:34 pm #1639117
jstewzParticipantHi everyone,
Does anyone know a good way to sum up the main differences between partnership vs s-corp taxation? Specifically in terms of:
-basis
-income
-loss deductibility
-treatment of distributions (liquidating, etc.)I'm studying this now and it's hard to keep it all straight. Thank you!
September 26, 2017 at 5:16 pm #1639163
pharaohParticipant@jstewz – that might be hard to summarize but I would say go through a lot of MCQ and it will sink in gradually.
The main difference I would say that Partnership has liability as part of the basis while s corp doesn'tFAR 8/2016
AUD 1/2017
REG TBD
BEC TBDSeptember 26, 2017 at 5:24 pm #1639172
pcunniffParticipant@pharaoh thanks a bunch. Makes sense now. I did answer my own question ha!
@jstewz
Good question. However it is very important to memorize the basis formulas because they are slightly different. Not sure if you are using becker or not. For example, loans directly increase the basis of an Scorp and they don't for partnerships.They are treated VERY similarly in terms of the separately stated items and what actually flows to their K-1s (in both). Income is allocated in accordance with ownership (both). Losses are treated the same way.
For liquidating distributions – I cant really help you on that. I know that when a partnership liquidates – you reduce the basis by cash first and then property second. I'm pretty sure it works the same way with S-corps, but am not entirely sure. Can someone else help out on this?
One big difference to note here is for an s corp, you will be taxed on these non liquidating distributions. S corps are like actually corps, which are subject to double taxation. Partnerships, on the other hand, don't get taxed because think about it…
you put something into a partnership in which you already owned that property. Why would you get taxed on that AGAIN? In that case it wouldn't make sense to actually contribute to a partnership for that reason. No one would want to pull anything out in which they already owned. In s-corps – you are taxed!
Very similar concepts as they have flow through separately stated formulas, but the basis formulas are slightly different. I would maybe read up on those pages again for whatever study material you are currently using. I hope this helps. Just keep in mind..
SCORPS ARE ACTUAL CORPORATIONS AND NOT PARTNERSHIPS (THOUGH THEY ARE TREATED SIMILARLY).
September 27, 2017 at 2:22 pm #1639639
Andria – Another71KeymasterSeptember 27, 2017 at 7:25 pm #1639748
AnonymousInactiveHello all!
I'll be taking REG on October 14th. I work full time but I took 4 days off the week I'm taking the exam. Hopefully that helps. Currently am using Becker and will also do Roger CPA Cram the week of the exam.
I am actually going to READ the book for this exam because there's no way I can stay alert with just listening to lectures and I hate drilling MCQs without already understanding the material.
Let's go!!
September 27, 2017 at 8:27 pm #1639786
pharaohParticipantUnder a contract governed by the U.C.C. Sales Article, which of the following statements is correct?
A.Unless both the seller and the buyer are merchants, neither party is obligated to perform the contract in good faith.
B.The contract will not be enforceable if it fails to expressly specify a time and a place for delivery of the goods.
C.The seller may be excused from performance if the goods are accidentally destroyed before the risk of loss passes to the buyer.
D.If the price of the goods is less than $500, the goods need not be identified to the contract for title to pass to the buyer.
FAR 8/2016
AUD 1/2017
REG TBD
BEC TBDSeptember 28, 2017 at 2:07 pm #1640107
CoachEmUpParticipant@pharaoh C or D and I'll go with D.
Anyone coming up on the test in the next few weeks? Started my review yesterday and really trying to nail down business law. Curious to see how much we'll get tested on it this quarter. Some of the stuff I feel like you'd need to be a lawyer to get the answers to it. But plenty of motivation for me… 2 weeks to grind and hopefully done w this S*** for my whole life (taxes that is)!
September 28, 2017 at 2:28 pm #1640116
pcunniffParticipant@pharaoh I saw this on my last attempt. I got tripped up by it. I think I went with B on this. Whats the answer?
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