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September 4, 2017 at 12:33 pm #1620148
jeff
KeymasterWelcome to the Q4 2017 CPA Exam Study Group for REG. 🙂
Introduce yourselves and let your fellow NINJAs know when you plan to take your REG exam.
The Five Steps (NINJA Framework): https://www.another71.com/pass-the-cpa-exam/
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October 8, 2017 at 9:03 am #1644979
CoachEmUp
Participant@pharaoh it is “voidable” for the party that was physically co-erced. They can still keep the contract if they want to.
October 8, 2017 at 10:18 am #1644995pcunniff
Participant@pharaoh .. on these questions I like to eliminate the ones I know are incorrect. So what makes a contract void? Illegality, PHYSICAL DURESS, mutual mistake, incompetency of the principal. On this one, I would say the answer is either B or D.
October 8, 2017 at 10:19 am #1644997pcunniff
ParticipantA and C are for sure incorrect because these are void not voidable.
October 8, 2017 at 12:07 pm #1645022pcunniff
ParticipantReally confused by this PHC problem.
Zero Corp. is an investment company authorized to issue only common stock.
During the last half of 2017, Edwards owned 450 of the 1,000 outstanding shares of stock in Zero. Another 350 shares of stock outstanding were owned, 10 shares each, by 35 shareholders who are neither related to each other nor to Edwards.
Zero could be a personal holding company if the remaining 200 shares of common stock were owned by
A) An estate where Edwards is the beneficiary.
B) Edwards's brother-in-law.
C) A partnership where Edwards is not a partner.
D) Edwards's cousin.You Answered Correctly!
Domestic and foreign corporations satisfying the personal holding company stock ownership and income tests are personal holding companies. As such, the corporation will be subject a 15% penalty tax on undistributed personal holding company income. The stock ownership test is satisfied if, at some time during the corporation's tax year, 50% or more of the corporation's stock was directly or indirectly owned by five or fewer individuals.An individual indirectly owns stock if it is owned by the individual's family or partner. Family includes the individual's brothers, sisters, spouse and lineal descendants and ancestors. An individual will not be considered to be the constructive owner of the stock owned by nephews, cousins, uncles, aunts, and any of his/hers spouses relatives. Constructive ownership also may exist if the individual is a partner in a partnership or the beneficiary of an estate that is a shareholder. The income test is satisfied if 60% or more of the corporation's adjusted ordinary gross income is personal holding company income.
With 450 shares, Edwards already directly owns 45% of Zero Corp.'s outstanding stock. If an estate where Edwards is the beneficiary owns the remainder of the corporation's 200 shares of stock, Edwards would directly or indirectly own 5% of the corporation. An ownership exceeding the 50% direct or indirect ownership percentage is needed to satisfy the stock ownership test.
Hence, Zero Corp. could be a personal holding company if the remaining 200 shares were owned by an estate where Edwards is the beneficiary. Each response given to this question satisfies the stock ownership test for a personal holding company because, in each response, five or fewer individuals would own more than 50% of the corporation's stock. However, this response is the best as it concentrates over 50% ownership under the control of one individual.
Two questions
1) I thought the tax was 20%? Is this a CPA EXCEL typo? Surprise surprise
2) How is this 5 or fewer individuals when 35 unrelated shareholders own 10 shares?Please clarify if you can. This problem seems all over the place. I got it correct because I knew the direct ownership rules. This answer is all over the place though with the 15% rule and I am also VERY confused with the 35 individual shareholders who are unrelated. This far exceeds the 5 or fewer test. What am I missing? Is it because since 1 individual owns 50% or more being just Edward?
October 8, 2017 at 12:59 pm #1645037pharaoh
Participant@coachEmUp – I understand what you are saying. so what would be your answer for this question
@pcunniff – I agree, it will go down to B or D, then B has nothing wrong, so it just ends up with D. I am still not convinced why it is not the right answerWhich of the following types of conduct renders a contract voidable?
A.Mutual mistake as to facts forming the basis of the contract
B.Unbreached contract
C.Duress through physical compulsion
D.Duress through threats of a civil suit
FAR 8/2016
AUD 1/2017
REG TBD
BEC TBDOctober 8, 2017 at 1:02 pm #1645040pharaoh
Participant@pcunniff
1) You are correct, it is 20%, may be 15% was an old number
2) 5 or fewer own more than 50%. you can have 100 shareholders but 5 of them own more than 50% of the stocks, so it qualifies to be PHCFAR 8/2016
AUD 1/2017
REG TBD
BEC TBDOctober 8, 2017 at 1:24 pm #1645048CoachEmUp
Participant@pharoah I think it's C because it's voidable for the party who was physically compulsed. They still could accept the contract if they wish to.
October 8, 2017 at 1:28 pm #1645057pharaoh
Participant@coachemup wouldn't physical duress make it “void” not voidable?
FAR 8/2016
AUD 1/2017
REG TBD
BEC TBDOctober 8, 2017 at 1:48 pm #1645061CoachEmUp
Participant@pharaoh I think you guys are all over-thinking the problem. My take is that it's voidable for the party who is physically compulsed. Why wouldn't they be able to keep the contract if they wanted to?
All in all the problem has about a .001% chance of being on the exam so I think we should all move on to better and more important problems.
October 8, 2017 at 1:57 pm #1645072pharaoh
ParticipantLOL. Yes I know and actually in my previous comment I typed “I am not going to waste a lot of time on this, I am moving on” but I deleted it.
Here is what I found in Gleim:”Physical Compulsion with threats of personal violence renders the contract void“
FAR 8/2016
AUD 1/2017
REG TBD
BEC TBDOctober 8, 2017 at 4:07 pm #1645127CoachEmUp
ParticipantThe limited liability of the shareholder of a closely held corporation will most likely be disregarded if the shareholders
A. Lend money to the corporation.
B. Are also corporate officers, directors, or employees.
C. Undercapitalized the corporation when it was formed.
D. Formed the corporation solely to limit their personal liability.Answer: C. Probably another one that won't get asked, but surprised me a bit (I chose B but can see why it's wrong).
October 8, 2017 at 9:07 pm #1645214Matt
Participant@pcunniff With the estate Edwards owns more then 50%, 1 can work as 5 or fewer
@CoachEmUp yea I've seen that one, there was another one about selling off assets below their value for some kind of gain and a third I will remember when I see again.That one is definitely more of a know it or don't question.
FAR 74
October 9, 2017 at 3:56 pm #1645433CoachEmUp
ParticipantI'm seriously hoping that some of Wiley's questions are so over the top that they can't possibly be on the exam. I consistently score around 75 on all practice sets I do. But when it comes to Personal/Corporate/P-ship/S-Corp stuff I feel rock solid so for the SIMS I feel in good shape. But during the practice sets I get inundated with BLaw questions bc it makes up half of Wiley's test bank.
Business Law is just killing me. Out of the 76 MCQ's I really hope to get lucky and not see more than 10 of them.
October 9, 2017 at 4:11 pm #1645439pcunniff
Participant@coachemup, quite honestly I firmly believe you can pass hardly knowing business law if you REALLY understand pships, corp, and individual tax inside and out. Your sims will consist of all tax (i would be very very surprised if you got a b-law sim and if you did.. its probably tossed).
Dont stress over that and keep hammering down those partnership questions (especially basis). Also know S-corp rules inside and out.
Sounds like youre in good shape.. keep it up! We're all struggling through this nasty test, but we will all pass and itll be over soon! Keep the eye on the prize
October 9, 2017 at 4:22 pm #1645445CoachEmUp
Participant@pcunniff Thanks. I take the test Thursday so I'm just grinding away. Been doing 150-200 problems a day for the last 7 days. Almost through the Wiley test bank.
I struggle with some of the personal credits (like the child care tax credit), but I figure I won't be the only one that struggles with it.
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