REG Study Group October November 2013 - Page 103

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  • #480747
    Mehwish
    Member

    thanks!

    one more Q about MACRS

    Furniture and fixture bought on nov 1, 2012 for 56000. no 179 expense.

    The question asked for depr for macrs.

    answer said 56000*2/7*1/8=2000

    where did they get 2/7 and 1/8?

    #480775
    Mehwish
    Member

    thanks!

    one more Q about MACRS

    Furniture and fixture bought on nov 1, 2012 for 56000. no 179 expense.

    The question asked for depr for macrs.

    answer said 56000*2/7*1/8=2000

    where did they get 2/7 and 1/8?

    #480749
    Skrier
    Member

    @insiyah…I was looking for an example, but I am not able to find one. I am not sure on how a capital loss would be handled in this situation, any ordinary losses are limited to the amount at risk…or their basis in the partnership. I am not clear on if capital losses work the same way. If I find something tomorrow, I will post it.

    AUD- 84
    FAR- 75
    REG- 78...I am DONE!!!
    BEC- 79

    #480777
    Skrier
    Member

    @insiyah…I was looking for an example, but I am not able to find one. I am not sure on how a capital loss would be handled in this situation, any ordinary losses are limited to the amount at risk…or their basis in the partnership. I am not clear on if capital losses work the same way. If I find something tomorrow, I will post it.

    AUD- 84
    FAR- 75
    REG- 78...I am DONE!!!
    BEC- 79

    #480751
    Kenada
    Member

    Appreciate that Skrier πŸ™‚

    FAR 05/27/14; 786/110 - Done !

    #480779
    Kenada
    Member

    Appreciate that Skrier πŸ™‚

    FAR 05/27/14; 786/110 - Done !

    #480753
    Qlad
    Member

    @insiyah….about ch 7 means test….purpose is to see if debtor has enough money to make payments under ch 13,….bcoz under ch 7 he will be fully discharged… Net monthly income*60mnths (5 year total of disposable income)

    — if 5 year total is $7025 or less, debtor can file under ch 7

    –if 5 yr total above 11725, debtor cannot file for ch 7 but can file for ch 13

    —if 5 year total is between 7025 and 11725 …then 2 more steps…

    a. if insufficient funds to pay 25% of non-priority debts, debtor can file under ch 7

    b. if sufficient to pay 25% or more of non priority ,…can file under ch 13 but not ch 7.

    and yes it comes to $190 or so per month

    FAR 72,71,81 πŸ™‚
    AUD 64,71, 72, 75 πŸ™‚ I'm done !!!
    REG 73, 74, 74, 84 πŸ™‚
    BEC 76 πŸ™‚

    #480781
    Qlad
    Member

    @insiyah….about ch 7 means test….purpose is to see if debtor has enough money to make payments under ch 13,….bcoz under ch 7 he will be fully discharged… Net monthly income*60mnths (5 year total of disposable income)

    — if 5 year total is $7025 or less, debtor can file under ch 7

    –if 5 yr total above 11725, debtor cannot file for ch 7 but can file for ch 13

    —if 5 year total is between 7025 and 11725 …then 2 more steps…

    a. if insufficient funds to pay 25% of non-priority debts, debtor can file under ch 7

    b. if sufficient to pay 25% or more of non priority ,…can file under ch 13 but not ch 7.

    and yes it comes to $190 or so per month

    FAR 72,71,81 πŸ™‚
    AUD 64,71, 72, 75 πŸ™‚ I'm done !!!
    REG 73, 74, 74, 84 πŸ™‚
    BEC 76 πŸ™‚

    #480755
    UCMCPA
    Member

    @mehwish..

    I'm not sure what they are doing. But the first year depr for a 7 year class property under half year is 14.29 % (this happens to be half of 2/7), then I'm assuming the 1/8 is for mid-quarter .

    FAR - 84
    AUD - 94
    REG - 86
    BEC - 86

    #480783
    UCMCPA
    Member

    @mehwish..

    I'm not sure what they are doing. But the first year depr for a 7 year class property under half year is 14.29 % (this happens to be half of 2/7), then I'm assuming the 1/8 is for mid-quarter .

    FAR - 84
    AUD - 94
    REG - 86
    BEC - 86

    #480757
    Skrier
    Member

    @insiyah….the mom and pop rule applies to real estate passive activity losses. You are allowed up to 25,000 is losses from real estate passive activities to offset ordinary income if you actively participate. The 25,000 is reduced by 50% for agi greater than 100,000. So if you actively participate and have losses of 30,000 and agi of 125,000 then you would reduce the 25,000 by 50% of the excess. The credit is completely phased out over 150,000.

    So it would look like this:

    125,000- 100,000= 25,000 x .50= 12,500 so then the $25,000 would be reduced to $12,500 (25,000-12,500)

    AUD- 84
    FAR- 75
    REG- 78...I am DONE!!!
    BEC- 79

    #480785
    Skrier
    Member

    @insiyah….the mom and pop rule applies to real estate passive activity losses. You are allowed up to 25,000 is losses from real estate passive activities to offset ordinary income if you actively participate. The 25,000 is reduced by 50% for agi greater than 100,000. So if you actively participate and have losses of 30,000 and agi of 125,000 then you would reduce the 25,000 by 50% of the excess. The credit is completely phased out over 150,000.

    So it would look like this:

    125,000- 100,000= 25,000 x .50= 12,500 so then the $25,000 would be reduced to $12,500 (25,000-12,500)

    AUD- 84
    FAR- 75
    REG- 78...I am DONE!!!
    BEC- 79

    #480759
    Qlad
    Member

    @Mehwish,…MACRS is double declining method….so use 2 times of straight line…7 is the no. of years furniture is depreciated under MACRS…1/8 or 3/8 or 5/8 or 7/8 ….they all depend on the quarter in which the furniture was bought….so if the furniture was bought in the last quarter of the year…1/8 will be used..

    FAR 72,71,81 πŸ™‚
    AUD 64,71, 72, 75 πŸ™‚ I'm done !!!
    REG 73, 74, 74, 84 πŸ™‚
    BEC 76 πŸ™‚

    #480787
    Qlad
    Member

    @Mehwish,…MACRS is double declining method….so use 2 times of straight line…7 is the no. of years furniture is depreciated under MACRS…1/8 or 3/8 or 5/8 or 7/8 ….they all depend on the quarter in which the furniture was bought….so if the furniture was bought in the last quarter of the year…1/8 will be used..

    FAR 72,71,81 πŸ™‚
    AUD 64,71, 72, 75 πŸ™‚ I'm done !!!
    REG 73, 74, 74, 84 πŸ™‚
    BEC 76 πŸ™‚

    #480761
    UCMCPA
    Member

    @mehwish

    The % that should be applied is .0357 based on tables. So 56,000 x .0357 = 1,999.20

    However, since you don't have the tables I'm assuming they are just factoring in the 2/7 for a FULL year depreciation under half year, THEN multiplying it by a 1/8 mid quarter since it was placed in service in the LAST quarter, or 12.5 percent.

    56,0000 x (2/7 * 1/8) = 56,000 x .035714 = 1999.984.

    FAR - 84
    AUD - 94
    REG - 86
    BEC - 86

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