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May 23, 2013 at 7:53 pm #177710
jeffKeymasterREG Resources:
Free REG Notes & Audio – https://www.another71.com/cpa-exam-study-plan
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REG Score Release: https://www.another71.com/cpa-exam-scores-results-release
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July 12, 2013 at 2:51 pm #439676
jeffKeymasterJuly 12, 2013 at 3:16 pm #439536
ssiegriParticipantHeidi: Yes, The 3,000 is still a 1231 long term capital gain, however, a c corporation doesn't recognize a different tax rate on capital gains – it can only deduct capital losses in extent of capital gains and carry it forward/back unlike an individual, estate, or trust, like you said so, yes it's “taxed at a normal corporate rate”. I feel like your mode of thinking is too much in the mind of an individual on this concept and if you thought about it as a corporation rather than trying to connect it to your understanding of the individual treatment, then it might be easier for you?
The recapture concept makes sense, to me anyway, because you aren't technically selling a depreciated capital asset at a “gain” – you “used” it for a while after you bought it, you're technically just making your money back on the sale, hence ordinary income – If you do however sell it for more than you bought it for, even after its “used”, you made your money back and then some.
FYI: still studying and just kind of started so you know way more than me, so feel free to tell me im wrong 🙂
July 12, 2013 at 3:16 pm #439678
ssiegriParticipantHeidi: Yes, The 3,000 is still a 1231 long term capital gain, however, a c corporation doesn't recognize a different tax rate on capital gains – it can only deduct capital losses in extent of capital gains and carry it forward/back unlike an individual, estate, or trust, like you said so, yes it's “taxed at a normal corporate rate”. I feel like your mode of thinking is too much in the mind of an individual on this concept and if you thought about it as a corporation rather than trying to connect it to your understanding of the individual treatment, then it might be easier for you?
The recapture concept makes sense, to me anyway, because you aren't technically selling a depreciated capital asset at a “gain” – you “used” it for a while after you bought it, you're technically just making your money back on the sale, hence ordinary income – If you do however sell it for more than you bought it for, even after its “used”, you made your money back and then some.
FYI: still studying and just kind of started so you know way more than me, so feel free to tell me im wrong 🙂
July 12, 2013 at 3:26 pm #439538
TiaMemberMy exam is a week away and I feel as though I should postpone it – I just cannot get C Corp taxation and its driving me nuts. I have BEC scheduled for Aug 31 so I guess for the coming week I have to push myself a bit harder to tackle this another beast.
Good luck to all.
FAR 83
AUD 87
REG 82
BEC score pendingJuly 12, 2013 at 3:26 pm #439680
TiaMemberMy exam is a week away and I feel as though I should postpone it – I just cannot get C Corp taxation and its driving me nuts. I have BEC scheduled for Aug 31 so I guess for the coming week I have to push myself a bit harder to tackle this another beast.
Good luck to all.
FAR 83
AUD 87
REG 82
BEC score pendingJuly 12, 2013 at 4:35 pm #439540
sugarmagnolia548MemberJuly 12, 2013 at 4:35 pm #439682
sugarmagnolia548MemberJuly 12, 2013 at 4:56 pm #439542
icanhazcpaMember@sugarmagnolia I think it's up to you if it's going to be enough. I would say no, but if you cram it in and have enough tax background to understand it then go for it. I studied for BEC in two weeks, but it's not the same as REG.
Alright guys I figured out my depreciation thing if anyone cares. You DO subtract the previous years' percentage, but you subtract it from the cost basis, not from the whole thing. So for the 7 year property in the second year you would have (Cost -.1428/life)(2) = .2449 BAM
BEC - 83
FAR - 83
REG - 74, 78
AUD - 76Becker Self Study
July 12, 2013 at 4:56 pm #439684
icanhazcpaMember@sugarmagnolia I think it's up to you if it's going to be enough. I would say no, but if you cram it in and have enough tax background to understand it then go for it. I studied for BEC in two weeks, but it's not the same as REG.
Alright guys I figured out my depreciation thing if anyone cares. You DO subtract the previous years' percentage, but you subtract it from the cost basis, not from the whole thing. So for the 7 year property in the second year you would have (Cost -.1428/life)(2) = .2449 BAM
BEC - 83
FAR - 83
REG - 74, 78
AUD - 76Becker Self Study
July 12, 2013 at 6:17 pm #439544
AnonymousInactiveHello all,
I'm back at it again! I'm glad that Reg is my last exam. I only have about two weeks to review. I have a month old and I'm squeezing in study time while I can. I'm so read to get this exam behind me once and for all. Best of luck to everyone!!
AUD – PASSED (May 2013)
BEC – PASSED (May 2013)
FAR – PASSED (April 2013)
REG – 7.20.13
“I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me”
July 12, 2013 at 6:17 pm #439686
AnonymousInactiveHello all,
I'm back at it again! I'm glad that Reg is my last exam. I only have about two weeks to review. I have a month old and I'm squeezing in study time while I can. I'm so read to get this exam behind me once and for all. Best of luck to everyone!!
AUD – PASSED (May 2013)
BEC – PASSED (May 2013)
FAR – PASSED (April 2013)
REG – 7.20.13
“I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me”
July 13, 2013 at 1:04 am #439546
Heidi-OMember@ssiegri I think the difficulty I was having is that Section 1231 of the Tax code is Capital Gains – therefore, it kind of confused me as to why a C Corp would be listed under Capital Gains if it is taxed at normal rates. After time away, and looking at your post, it kind of make sense. The selling of an asset does start the Capital Gains portion of the tax code – it's a matter of Which Part of the capital gains code it hits!! The Depreciation recapture as ordinary income made sense as it was deducted from ordinary income while it was used in the business. It was the whole “Sold for more than what you purchased it for” part that was confusing me. Why was that listed as Section 1231 Ordinary Income in my book? After researching the code, it did give preferential tax treatment (off and on) in the past and I guess they still keep it alive in the same tax code sections – but they modify how it may be handled within that code section.
Thanks!
@Tia What part of Corporation Taxation is driving you nuts? Is it s one section or all of it? Where are your weak areas? And what materials are you using?
@sugarmagnolia – I agree with Icanhazcpa, it can be a tough exam but it also depends on where your strengths exist. 2 weeks… If the exam is going to expire – I would say go for it! You have nothing to lose that you aren't going to lose already. Make the best of it and at the least it will give you an experience for the exam and for the sims (which are quite different from the other exams); at the best, you pass!! 🙂
FAR Aug 2012 79
AUD Oct 2012 84
REG Aug 2013 87
BEC Jan 2013 80July 13, 2013 at 1:04 am #439688
Heidi-OMember@ssiegri I think the difficulty I was having is that Section 1231 of the Tax code is Capital Gains – therefore, it kind of confused me as to why a C Corp would be listed under Capital Gains if it is taxed at normal rates. After time away, and looking at your post, it kind of make sense. The selling of an asset does start the Capital Gains portion of the tax code – it's a matter of Which Part of the capital gains code it hits!! The Depreciation recapture as ordinary income made sense as it was deducted from ordinary income while it was used in the business. It was the whole “Sold for more than what you purchased it for” part that was confusing me. Why was that listed as Section 1231 Ordinary Income in my book? After researching the code, it did give preferential tax treatment (off and on) in the past and I guess they still keep it alive in the same tax code sections – but they modify how it may be handled within that code section.
Thanks!
@Tia What part of Corporation Taxation is driving you nuts? Is it s one section or all of it? Where are your weak areas? And what materials are you using?
@sugarmagnolia – I agree with Icanhazcpa, it can be a tough exam but it also depends on where your strengths exist. 2 weeks… If the exam is going to expire – I would say go for it! You have nothing to lose that you aren't going to lose already. Make the best of it and at the least it will give you an experience for the exam and for the sims (which are quite different from the other exams); at the best, you pass!! 🙂
FAR Aug 2012 79
AUD Oct 2012 84
REG Aug 2013 87
BEC Jan 2013 80July 13, 2013 at 2:20 am #439548
WestonMMemberFor anyone who has taken Reg, is it worth even studying Tax ethics and tax court set up/appeals process? For those using Becker, this is the second half of R4. Gearity blows through it, and literally just reads certain definitions. Seems like a lot of work for not much payoff.
BEC: 93 4/18/13
FAR: 89 7/3/13
REG: 90 8/30/13
AUD: 95 11/29/13DONE!
July 13, 2013 at 2:20 am #439690
WestonMMemberFor anyone who has taken Reg, is it worth even studying Tax ethics and tax court set up/appeals process? For those using Becker, this is the second half of R4. Gearity blows through it, and literally just reads certain definitions. Seems like a lot of work for not much payoff.
BEC: 93 4/18/13
FAR: 89 7/3/13
REG: 90 8/30/13
AUD: 95 11/29/13DONE!
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