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May 23, 2013 at 7:53 pm #177710
jeffKeymasterREG Resources:
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June 25, 2013 at 2:08 pm #439041
masterof74sMemberJune 25, 2013 at 2:08 pm #439182
masterof74sMemberJune 25, 2013 at 6:34 pm #439043
NikkiSkupnjakMemberI don't have a specific example. But from what I know:
Section 179 you can expense up to $500,000. If you purchased over $2,000,000 in property that year, the $500,000 is reduced by the excess over $2 million.
Can anyone explain bonus depreciation? I don't understand when you can use it and how it compares to Section 179
From what I read
50% depreciation rate for assets placed in service before Sept. 9, 2010
100% for assets placed in service Sept. 9, 2010 – Dec. 31, 2011
50% for assets placed in service after Dec. 31, 2011
FAR 92
AUD 99
REG 94
BECBecker Self-Study, Wiley Test Bank
June 25, 2013 at 6:34 pm #439184
NikkiSkupnjakMemberI don't have a specific example. But from what I know:
Section 179 you can expense up to $500,000. If you purchased over $2,000,000 in property that year, the $500,000 is reduced by the excess over $2 million.
Can anyone explain bonus depreciation? I don't understand when you can use it and how it compares to Section 179
From what I read
50% depreciation rate for assets placed in service before Sept. 9, 2010
100% for assets placed in service Sept. 9, 2010 – Dec. 31, 2011
50% for assets placed in service after Dec. 31, 2011
FAR 92
AUD 99
REG 94
BECBecker Self-Study, Wiley Test Bank
June 25, 2013 at 9:54 pm #439045
Heidi-OMemberMasterof74s – That's Hateful!! I'm sorry you missed by one point, but, sadly, you are not alone.
For tax year 2013
According to CCH you are looking at two separate tax codes
First is Section 179 that states that you can deduct (expense) up to $500,000 in property for 2013 (which if the assets placed in service cost more 2,000,000, then the 500,000 gets reduced – I don't think the exam will go into that much detail, but just in case).
Second, the section 179 property that you just expensed part of then gets to use the application of Section 168(k). This gets applied AFTER section 179. This states that a “50% bonus depreciation allowance is then computed on the taxpayer's basis in the section 179 property as reduced by the Code section 179”.
So, you put a piece of manufacturing equipment in place that costs 700,000. You get 500,000 in Section 179 depreciation expense. This makes the basis in the equipment 200,000 (700 – 500). Next, you apply the 168(k) 50% reduction in basis on this piece of equipment and take and additional 100,000 (50% of 200,000 basis).
Again, as I understand it, that additional 50% deduction can ONLY be used on the equipment that you have used the Section 179 deduction on.
FAR Aug 2012 79
AUD Oct 2012 84
REG Aug 2013 87
BEC Jan 2013 80June 25, 2013 at 9:54 pm #439186
Heidi-OMemberMasterof74s – That's Hateful!! I'm sorry you missed by one point, but, sadly, you are not alone.
For tax year 2013
According to CCH you are looking at two separate tax codes
First is Section 179 that states that you can deduct (expense) up to $500,000 in property for 2013 (which if the assets placed in service cost more 2,000,000, then the 500,000 gets reduced – I don't think the exam will go into that much detail, but just in case).
Second, the section 179 property that you just expensed part of then gets to use the application of Section 168(k). This gets applied AFTER section 179. This states that a “50% bonus depreciation allowance is then computed on the taxpayer's basis in the section 179 property as reduced by the Code section 179”.
So, you put a piece of manufacturing equipment in place that costs 700,000. You get 500,000 in Section 179 depreciation expense. This makes the basis in the equipment 200,000 (700 – 500). Next, you apply the 168(k) 50% reduction in basis on this piece of equipment and take and additional 100,000 (50% of 200,000 basis).
Again, as I understand it, that additional 50% deduction can ONLY be used on the equipment that you have used the Section 179 deduction on.
FAR Aug 2012 79
AUD Oct 2012 84
REG Aug 2013 87
BEC Jan 2013 80June 25, 2013 at 10:04 pm #439047
Heidi-OMemberOh, and just in case they ask on the exam “Section 179 deduction that may be claimed in a tax year (section 179(b)(3)(A)…. may not exceed the taxable income derived by the taxpayer from the active conduct of any trade or business during the tax year. The amount elected to be expensed that is disallowed as a deduction under the taxable income limitation may be carried forward. (section 179(b)(3)(B)”
Again, just remember that 179 deduction cannot create a loss, and that the 179 amount allowed in that year can be carried forward.
FAR Aug 2012 79
AUD Oct 2012 84
REG Aug 2013 87
BEC Jan 2013 80June 25, 2013 at 10:04 pm #439188
Heidi-OMemberOh, and just in case they ask on the exam “Section 179 deduction that may be claimed in a tax year (section 179(b)(3)(A)…. may not exceed the taxable income derived by the taxpayer from the active conduct of any trade or business during the tax year. The amount elected to be expensed that is disallowed as a deduction under the taxable income limitation may be carried forward. (section 179(b)(3)(B)”
Again, just remember that 179 deduction cannot create a loss, and that the 179 amount allowed in that year can be carried forward.
FAR Aug 2012 79
AUD Oct 2012 84
REG Aug 2013 87
BEC Jan 2013 80June 26, 2013 at 12:36 am #439049
NikkiSkupnjakMember@Heidi-O THANK YOU!
FAR 92
AUD 99
REG 94
BECBecker Self-Study, Wiley Test Bank
June 26, 2013 at 12:36 am #439190
NikkiSkupnjakMember@Heidi-O THANK YOU!
FAR 92
AUD 99
REG 94
BECBecker Self-Study, Wiley Test Bank
June 26, 2013 at 4:57 am #439051
Heidi-OMember@Nikki Glad I could help!
I have been doing the hand written notes for a few weeks. I've made it through chapter 3 and then I put them in a Word document. I WILL get beyond this stupid text anxiety. The only additional chapter I plan to write up notes for is Chapter 4 Partnerships. It is working, as the information is being pounded into my brain – lets hope it is easily retrieved on test day 7/18.
I think I will give my hand a break and focus on contract law instead. It will be easier to knock out 5 and 6 (and possibly 7) and then go back to chapter 4 and start the handwritten and typed notes again.
FAR Aug 2012 79
AUD Oct 2012 84
REG Aug 2013 87
BEC Jan 2013 80June 26, 2013 at 4:57 am #439192
Heidi-OMember@Nikki Glad I could help!
I have been doing the hand written notes for a few weeks. I've made it through chapter 3 and then I put them in a Word document. I WILL get beyond this stupid text anxiety. The only additional chapter I plan to write up notes for is Chapter 4 Partnerships. It is working, as the information is being pounded into my brain – lets hope it is easily retrieved on test day 7/18.
I think I will give my hand a break and focus on contract law instead. It will be easier to knock out 5 and 6 (and possibly 7) and then go back to chapter 4 and start the handwritten and typed notes again.
FAR Aug 2012 79
AUD Oct 2012 84
REG Aug 2013 87
BEC Jan 2013 80June 26, 2013 at 5:09 am #439053
AnonymousInactiveIs it just me or is commercial paper another language? I am on chapter 6 becker, does the rest of the chapter get ANY better? :/
June 26, 2013 at 5:09 am #439194
AnonymousInactiveIs it just me or is commercial paper another language? I am on chapter 6 becker, does the rest of the chapter get ANY better? :/
June 26, 2013 at 12:21 pm #439055
MansishethParticipantHello everyone!!
I am planning to sit for this section on August 23rd. Just got my NTS. I have purchased the Ninja audio and notes for this section and the audio is amazing so far. I listen to it on my way to work and the best use of the downtime.
JEFF – I just purchased the audio yesterday and notes couple days back. The notes say 13,000 for gifts and the audio says 14,000 – I am really confused as to which number to focus on. Are there any other changes if sitting for the exam in August? Becker website has no update regarding this. Also the section 179 numbers have changed?
Thanks for the help in advance!
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