REG Study Group January/February 2013 - Page 15

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  • #401087
    Anonymous
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    I don't understand the answer to the following question and would really appreciate some clarification:

    Axis Corp. is an accrual basis calendar year corporation.

    On December 13, 2012, the Board of Directors declared a two percent of profits bonus to all employees for services rendered during 2012 and notified them in writing. None of the employees own stock in Axis.

    The amount represents reasonable compensation for services rendered and was paid on March 13, 2013. Axis' bonus expense may

    A. Not be deducted on Axis' 2012 tax return because the per share employee amount cannot be determined with reasonable accuracy at the time of the declaration of the bonus.

    B. Be deducted on Axis' 2012 tax return.

    C. Be deducted on Axis' 2013 tax return.

    D. Not be deducted on Axis' tax return because payment is a disguised dividend.

    The correct answer is : B. Be deducted on Axis' 2012 tax return.

    And the reason why is:

    While cash based taxpayers deduct deferred compensation in the tax year that the compensation is actually paid to employees, accrual basis taxpayers deduct deferred compensation in the tax year that the liability to pay the compensation becomes fixed. The liability to pay the deferred compensation becomes fixed when:

    1) all events have occurred to establish the liability to pay the compensation;

    2) economic performance has occurred with respect to the liability; and

    3) the amount can be determined with reasonable accuracy. In addition, accrual based taxpayers must pay the deferred compensation within the first 2 1/2 months of a tax year to deduct the compensation in the preceding year.

    This response correctly indicates that Axis' bonus expense would be deducted on the corporation's 2012. All the events occurred to establish the liability for the bonuses when the corporation declared the dividends and notified the employees. The bonuses are for services rendered in 2012, indicating that economic performance has occurred with respect to the liability, and the amount of the bonuses can be determined with reasonable accuracy. Paying the dividends on March 13, 2013 is within the first 2 1/2 months of the close of Axis' 2012 tax year. Hence, the liability to pay the dividends became fixed in 2012 and they were paid within the first 2 1/2 months of the 2013 tax year.

    I think the answer should be that it can be deducted on the 2013 tax return. I don't understand how March 13,2013 is within 2 1/2 months of the end of the 2012 tax year. I think that the cutoff for the 2 1/2 months would be February 15, 2013 and March is clearly after that.

    Can anyone help explain this?

    #401088
    KGC111210
    Participant

    January – 1 month

    February – 1 month

    March 15 – 1/2 month

    add it all together and you get 2 & 1/2 months, therefore March 13 is before the 2 & 1/2 month point so it can be deducted in 2012.

    Hope this clarifies.

    FAR 69, 74, 78
    REG 69, 69, 69, 82
    BEC 75
    AUD 76

    #401089

    ^this

    I don't like to remember those types of things as “two and a half months” and likewise. It does make it somewhat confusing.

    I'd rather just remember it as “as long as they pay it by the filing deadline”

    #401090
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thanks. I don't know why that wasn't clicking but I like the idea of just thinking of it as the filing deadline.

    #401091
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hey everybody. I'm taking REG on Monday for the second time. It is my final test to be through with this headache. How's everybody doing?

    I'm getting super anxious about all the little details floating around in my head. Everytime I pause and I ask myself “what do I know for sure?”, I feel like I'm in a storm of information…

    Positive vibes for all of you guys!

    #401092

    Working on redoing R8 homework right now. I'm doing well on it but I have a long way to go. I'm starting to think that this is a complete mismanagement of my time and I should ditch the need to rework every Becker program and start hammering important stuff that I don't feel great on.

    Edit: I also regret not doing a good job marking every question I wanted to understand more about later. Lesson learned big time.

    #401093
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    So a few of my friends tried to convive me to give up on trying to get finish this CPA challenge. I have not given and today did Reg for # 4 times. Can you imagine ? they think I am nuts !!

    REG ( 74, 74, 73 )

    BEC (84 )

    AUD (77 )

    FAR ( Feb 13 )

    #401094
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Don't give up. However, if my FAR expires before I pass REG… I might give up. haha

    #401095
    samdiegoCPA
    Member

    Might have been a huge mistake – but I took all day today off to clear my head. I put in between 5-9 hours each day Mon-Fri so hopefully this day off helped repair my brain. Waking up tomorrow and Monday at 7am for 10 hour days :/ I received some Adderall from a friend so going to try those out.

    AUD: 84
    REG: 84
    BEC: 79
    FAR: 83

    #401096

    Alrighty. One more question that's eating away at my soul. This one is from Final Exam #1

    Skipper Family trust, a simple trust, blah blah find DNI

    Ordinary income from rental properties (gross) 5000

    Taxable Dividend Income 1500

    Interest income from corp bonds 1000

    Interest income from tax exempt.. 500

    Rental expenses 2500

    Trust fees allocable to income 1000

    Trustee fees allocable to corpus 500

    Calculation for the correct answer is as follows

    5000

    1500

    1000


    7500

    Less:

    (2500)

    (1000)

    Equals 4000

    plus 500 nontaxable income

    minus 500 trustee fees to corpus

    Final answer: 4000

    My question is…why are the trustee fees allocable to corpus included in that computation? Shouldn't anything involved with corpus not be considered in trust? Is it only income corpus items not included? Is this a special case because it's a trustee fee? I have no idea why that counts as a deduction.

    #401097
    samdiegoCPA
    Member

    Also interested in that answer cus I thought corpus items weren't included in DNI as well. I'll do a google search in a bit if no one replies.

    AUD: 84
    REG: 84
    BEC: 79
    FAR: 83

    #401098
    samdiegoCPA
    Member

    meatball – what time is your exam and what's your timezone?

    Mine's at 1pm PST – but last time I went 45 min early and they let me start then.

    AUD: 84
    REG: 84
    BEC: 79
    FAR: 83

    #401099

    11:30 eastern, I'll probably get there early as well. I'll be done by the time you start 😮

    #401100

    I know this thread has turned into mypetmeatball.livejournal.com but I just completed the second Becker final exam.

    Testlet 1: 75

    Testlet 2: 87

    Testlet 3: 67

    Sims:

    Basis 0

    Partnership Distribution 92

    K-1 100

    K-1 S Corp 100

    Form 1040 Line Items 60

    Research 0 (should be 100, again)

    First thing's first, what the hell is going on with this Becker research?!?! This is the second time I put in the correct section and subsection and did not get credit. Should I be worried?

    Secondly, this was pretty damn hard. The part that is KILLING me is the basis simulation. It was, by far, the easiest simulation. When I was adding liabilities to the basis of the separate partners, I f'ing forgot to take into account their ownership percentage. That's the kind of thing that really really worries me, I get so damn lazy towards the end of the exam. That's a heinous error that could end up being the difference between passing and failing..I better not do something like that on the exam.

    My brain hurts. I need to take an hour off and breathe some fresh air. Then I'll review my exam to see what other terrible mistakes I made and then get the 24 hour Wiley trial.

    #401101
    mcroteau
    Member

    Does anyone know if there is a way to increase the play-back speed on the becker review lectures? Had the bright idea on Saturday of “winging-it” on REG and signed up to take the test on Friday (1/18/13) — just started studying this weekend. With a shortened time-frame and the fact that I have work all week, it would be nice to make Tim Geraghty speed up a little…can't seem to find any settings available on the software though.

    Also — any tips for areas to focus on??

    A – 76

    B – 76

    R – 1/13

    F – 2/28

    BEC - 76
    AUD - 76
    FAR - 74 (retake 4/13/13)
    REG - 5/13/13

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