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November 30, 2010 at 3:58 pm #159274
jeffKeymasterNINJA Study Notes, Flashcards, and Audio: https://www.another71.com/products-page/
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July 27, 2011 at 3:10 am #371334
jeffKeymasterUniform Limited Liability Company Act (1996):
SECTION 405. SHARING OF AND RIGHT TO DISTRIBUTIONS.
(a) Any distributions made by a limited liability company before its
dissolution and winding up must be in equal shares.
(b) A member has no right to receive, and may not be required to accept,
a distribution in kind.
(c) If a member becomes entitled to receive a distribution, the member
has the status of, and is entitled to all remedies available to, a creditor of the limited
liability company with respect to the distribution.
Comment
Recognizing the informality of many limited liability companies, this
section creates a simple default rule regarding interim distributions. Any interim
distributions made must be in equal shares and approved by all members. See
Section 404(c)(6). The rule assumes that: profits will be shared equally; some
distributions will constitute a return of contributions that should be shared equally
rather than a distribution of profits; and property contributors should have the right
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to veto any distribution that threatens their return of contributions on liquidation.
July 27, 2011 at 3:30 am #371335
MinimortyParticipant@Jeff – You seem to have pulled the provisions regarding distributions whereas the question was referring to profits. Nevermind, I just read the “assumptions” towards the end of the passage. Why on earth would they assume profits would be shared equally when generally that is not the case?
On another note, profits, losses, and distributions are all determined by the specific entity's operating agreement. If no operating agreement is present, or is silent with regard to profits, losses, and distributions, then the state law that the LLC was incorporated governs.
July 27, 2011 at 3:33 am #371336
jeffKeymasterRecognizing the informality of many limited liability companies, this
section creates a simple default rule regarding interim distributions. Any interim
distributions made must be in equal shares and approved by all members. See
Section 404(c)(6). The rule assumes that: profits will be shared equally; some
distributions will constitute a return of contributions that should be shared equally
rather than a distribution of profits; and property contributors should have the right
July 27, 2011 at 3:34 am #371337
MinimortyParticipant@Jeff- yeah, I edited my post. It makes no sense though. Thats not how it works in the real world.
July 27, 2011 at 3:39 am #371338
jeffKeymasterJuly 27, 2011 at 3:41 am #371339
MinimortyParticipantI guess I would just point out that if, on the exam, they give you the partners' capital percentages, I would apply the profits, losses, and distributions based on those capital percentages. I would not do them equally.
July 27, 2011 at 3:46 am #371340
jeffKeymasterJuly 27, 2011 at 3:51 am #371341
MinimortyParticipantI guess we'll have to agree to disagree. If I own 75% of the profit, loss, and capital percentages, I am not going to be sharing in the profits equally with the owner of the remaining 25%. I agree that the operating/partnership agreement dictates. If there is no agreement between the members/partners, however, then state law governs (ie. not the ULLCA of 1996).
July 27, 2011 at 3:57 am #371342
MinimortyParticipantI havent started REG yet, but this is what is in the Becker book:
“Profit and Loss Allocation:
As in a limited partnership, unless the articles or an operating agreement provides otherwise, profits and losses of an LLC are allocated on the basis of the members' contributions in most states. Under the Uniform Limited Liability Company Act (ULLCA), profits are shared equally, regardless of capital contributions.”
July 27, 2011 at 4:15 am #371343
jeffKeymasterJuly 27, 2011 at 4:19 am #371344
WhyMe23ParticipantBecker says in GPs and LLPs they are assumed to be divided equally. For Limited Partnerships and LLCs they are based on the % of contribution.
As for this act, sounds like it assumes equal so just go with that.
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F - 77 (8/31/11)July 27, 2011 at 10:36 am #371345
jomarieParticipantOk I understand the difference. Then why on a MCQ the answer is based on capital contributions?
Started sitting in May 2002, on and off. But since 2008 I've been nonstop and my scores are....
AUD - 39, 48, 56, 65, 68, 73, 76!!! (Finally passed in Oct 2011!!!) Becker, NINJA, & Wiley
REG - 75 (Lost Credit) 72, 68, 73, 75 (Passed again in Aug 2011) Becker, NINJA, & Wiley
FAR - 65, 68, 75 (Lost Credit) 68, 73, 73, 80 (Passed again in May 2012) Roger, NINJA, & Wiley
BEC - 65, 68, 71, 72, 72, 71, 76 (Lost Credit)- 70, 76!!!! I AM DONE!!! - Roger, NINJA, & Wiley
After 10 long years of studying, I AM DONE!!!! Finally a Licensed CPA in the State of New York!!July 27, 2011 at 12:01 pm #371346
PeanutParticipant@jomarie, every MCQ you see on LLCs in Becker-it will be based on partnership contributions. I've studied this material three times for REG and on top of live classes for REG, I took the live class for BEC last October which used to have all of the partnership material until they took it out of BEC and put it in the REG material. So technically I've studied partnerships 4 times haha. I'm purchasing the Wiley MCQs today too and I'm going to assume all of their MCQs will use partnership contributions as well. We shall see!
AUD 81 (X4) Previous scores 59, 72, 72
REG 80 (X3) Previous scores 59, 60
FAR 75 (X2) Previous score 67
BEC 79 (X2) Previous score 58July 27, 2011 at 2:18 pm #371347
jomarieParticipant@ Peanut – I took BEC like 6 or 7 times before they took Business Structures out of BEC and now this is going to be my 3rd time taking REG in 2011, so I think I'll go with capital contributions. It seems that mainly all questions go that route. I talked with my boss about it just now and he said “if the question gives you the capital contributions go with that, if the question mentions ULLCA, then split them equally.” Unless they mention the operating agreement, then go with that. He pretty much said don't read into the question to much.
Started sitting in May 2002, on and off. But since 2008 I've been nonstop and my scores are....
AUD - 39, 48, 56, 65, 68, 73, 76!!! (Finally passed in Oct 2011!!!) Becker, NINJA, & Wiley
REG - 75 (Lost Credit) 72, 68, 73, 75 (Passed again in Aug 2011) Becker, NINJA, & Wiley
FAR - 65, 68, 75 (Lost Credit) 68, 73, 73, 80 (Passed again in May 2012) Roger, NINJA, & Wiley
BEC - 65, 68, 71, 72, 72, 71, 76 (Lost Credit)- 70, 76!!!! I AM DONE!!! - Roger, NINJA, & Wiley
After 10 long years of studying, I AM DONE!!!! Finally a Licensed CPA in the State of New York!!July 27, 2011 at 2:22 pm #371348
jomarieParticipantMy boss also said that's the beauty of a LLC (vs. a S-Corp). You can distrbute the profits and/or losses anyway you what, but you should have it written down in the operating agreement.
Started sitting in May 2002, on and off. But since 2008 I've been nonstop and my scores are....
AUD - 39, 48, 56, 65, 68, 73, 76!!! (Finally passed in Oct 2011!!!) Becker, NINJA, & Wiley
REG - 75 (Lost Credit) 72, 68, 73, 75 (Passed again in Aug 2011) Becker, NINJA, & Wiley
FAR - 65, 68, 75 (Lost Credit) 68, 73, 73, 80 (Passed again in May 2012) Roger, NINJA, & Wiley
BEC - 65, 68, 71, 72, 72, 71, 76 (Lost Credit)- 70, 76!!!! I AM DONE!!! - Roger, NINJA, & Wiley
After 10 long years of studying, I AM DONE!!!! Finally a Licensed CPA in the State of New York!! -
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