Really need your advice! what is an appropriate hourly rate for part-time tax?

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    Anonymous
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    I JUST got a phone call for a part time position. I will be hired to do some audit work for the firm and tax preparation. I will start in Jan. Hopefully I will hear by the end of this year that I have passed all of the CPA exam. In addition, I have an MBA degree. Currently, I am a staff accountant at a corporation and have the ability to work 4-10 hour days (M,T,TH,F). Therefore I would have my only day off during the week, evenings and Saturdays to work part time at the firm.

    The firm said they would like to start me at $18/hour. I was in shock.. really? They don’t even have to offer me benefits. I set up a date to come in starting in January, but didn’t want to be rude and conern myself with the pay at the time. I think I should have told them that was too low and I should have asked if they were planning on 1099ing me. 1099 would be even worse! Is $18 bad or good? Should I not concern myself with this? They did say they wanted to see how efficient I am with my work. Which I pride myself on my multitasking abilities and work, so I would imagine it would increase.. I’m thinking starting should be $25-$30? What do you think?

    Thanks for any help.. I’m so confused and almost offended..? 18???? Ah!

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  • #258966
    WI_11
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    I think for a part-time gig $18 an hour sound pretty fair. They dont know anything about you and you are just doing extra work and they will see if they like you or not. I would'nt be to concerned about that and worry more about learning and impressing them. Salary is always negotiabe down the road if they want to make it more full time.

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    #258967
    Anonymous
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    Thank you. Ok.. you are right.. but I just spent the last 6 months of my life on hold for the CPA exam.. and I was looking forward to the CPA making me some money if I was going to consider putting mylife on hold again for the next 4 months. I would have to give up my 1 day off of work, all saturdays and some evenings devoted over the next 4 months for way less than $5k (assuming I'm NOT 1099).. my family is close to disowning me because of how much time I put towards the CPA.. it may not be worth $18/hour.

    I hope to get some opinoins on hourly rates with this economy. And I heard you have to have a CPA or EA or a test completed to even prepare taxes in 2011… so hmm… HR Block might be looking better…

    #258968
    WI_11
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    I would be greatly suprised to find out HR block pay there seasonal tax preparers more than $18 per hour. I would guess more like $12-16.

    The CPA exam will pay off, just not overnight. This is a journey, not a sprint. I paid out of pocket for all my exam materials and exam fees,so I know it can be pricy. But it sounds like you have a good job and your work ethic will pay off, but just because you earned your CPA dosent mean anybody owes “us” anything. We need to earn it.

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    #258969
    Anonymous
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    True True I've paid most out of my pocket too.. I just keep getting told “if you do this, then you'll make good money”, like..

    “If you have a bachelors, you'll make more money than people who didn't go to school”

    “if you have your MBA, you'll make really good money”

    “if you have your CPA, you'll make REALLY good money”

    I have near 5 years of direct accounting experience, good college degrees and now (hopefully) the CPA.. I'm lucky to make $45k.. I'm horrible at barganing. But some of my coworkers make more than me with less experience, no bachelors degree and it is all because they can bargain. I book our payroll entries so I know what everyone makes in the entire company.. it is so frustrating šŸ™ I take what I can get because I feel blessed, but somewhere someday I have to put my foot down. My school loans are almost as much as my mortgage payment!

    Soon.. I'll get married and start having babies.. then my salary will be down to zero! what a waste!

    #258970
    Anonymous
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    I know what you mean. It's definitely not a waste, though! You never know what your future holds. Having my accounting degree/experience has helped me eventhough I'm a stay-at-home Mom now. I can work tax seasons if I choose, we save lots of money in my husbands' business since we don't have to pay accounting fees, I get to teach my children these skills when they get older, I been a volunteer board member/Treasurer for a non-profit organization…Who knows how all of your accomplishments will pay off in the future! We'll see if a CPA license is in my future…I think I've decided to take the parts in this order: FAR, AUD, REG, BEC. Any suggestions on when to take them (spacing)?

    #258971
    Anonymous
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    I took them as REG, BEC, FAR & AUD. I wanted to get REG out of the way in order to not confuse the GAAP rules in FAR. The way Becker presents this material was perfect in this order! I did it in 6 months. I started studying in May. REG exam was 7/13, BEC was 8/18, FAR was 10/18 and AUD was 11/24. It worked great! I took two test per testing window. You can do it!!

    #258972
    tulip
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    CPA someday – I think your instincts are right on. Personally, I feel $18/hour is much too low for your experience. To me, part-time means that the rate should be higher than the hourly rate on your full-time job, and 1099 means that is should be 25-30% higher than that. A company should pay a higher rate when they are not making the commitment to the burden of a full-time employee.

    However, given that this is supplemental income, the relevant question is whether you believe your time is worth $18/hour. If it's not, set your rate to something that you believe is worth your extra time, and always ask for that rate (or ask for higher if you feel you'll be negotiating).

    Good luck to you!

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    #258973
    Anonymous
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    thanks tulip. I was thinking the same as you, about the non commitment to part time employee. If they didn't like me or my work, then they tell me not to return and no true risk to them. I have always seen part time people get paid more per hour than full time.

    #258974
    whitesoxfancpa
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    tulip,

    You said this:

    “To me, part-time means that the rate should be higher than the hourly rate on your full-time job”

    That doesn't make any sense. A part-time job typically pays at a lower rate than a full-time job. I know you're thinking that there are less benefits, etc. but it typically doesn't matter. Usually a part-time job pays less per hour, year, or whatever.

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    #258975
    WI_11
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    cpa someday_

    How do you have your ethics score before finishing your exams? On the WI website it reads to me that you have to complete your exams first? Please let me know..

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    #258976
    Anonymous
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    I'm from IL.. from my understanding in IL you can complete the exam anytime. Just order the supplies from the AICPA website… but Wisconsin might be different.. you know that state šŸ™‚ It took me under 2 hours to do it.. so there is no rush to get it done…

    whitesoxfan.. I agree that part time employees will get paid more PER HOUR, maybe not per year, because of course they are part time. There is less risk with a part-timer, if you don't like their work you can fire them without having to worry about unemployment. You don't have to pay them benefits: paid time off, insurance (huge saver), no guarantee of hours, no holidays, etc.

    #258977
    Anonymous
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    CPA SOmeday- YOu are all over the comments. Now I'd love to get learn more from you. What website did you look for part time job that work at weekends, doing audit and tax? I ‘d like to do part time like yours. S18/hour is perfect for me!> Right now, I'm a staff accountant at a non profit. Pay really low, and have not much thing to do, it's just like entering cash receipts… things that i can't believe a staff accountant, esp. those with a CPA will accept to di. Probably I'm fast, so it always takes me half time to finish my job duties. . Still afraid to leave the job right now, coz I just have 1 year experience

    Could you please share with me some information about those part time jobs that you come accross? Or if you refuse to accept it, or have a better job later on, can you recommend it to me?

    Can I have your email? or here is my email: huongnhidp@yahoo.com. I'd appreciate your help. My networking is very weak. I have very few friends.

    Whitesoxfan CPA- I still admire your super high scores? Are you from Illinois? I read almost all of your comments ( from ethics exam., to finishing 4 parts… Very impressive….)

    Thanks a lot CPA SOmeday

    #258978
    whitesoxfancpa
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    CPA Someday,

    I said I would think that part-time employees would get paid LESS per hour, not more.

    I could very well be wrong. It's happened before šŸ™‚

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    #258979
    whitesoxfancpa
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    annie,

    Yep, I'm from IL.

    You have one year of experience, but what's important is that you're gaining more experience every day and you have a job. So many people are out of work right now that I am happy just to have a job. CPA or no CPA, I'm happy to be employed!

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    #258980
    75 CPA
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    Deloitte pays $55,000 per year right out of college. There is a $5,000 signing bonus and another bonus of $5,000 for passing the CPA exams. Deloitte also pays for Becker. However, you are on salary for $55,000 per year. Translation: You work overtime for free.

    The going rate in my area for part-time tax work is $20 per hour. That works out to $41,600 per year. If you are proficient in Lacerte or another tax program, you are a steal at $20 per hour! However, I think that $25 per hour ($52,000 per year) is more reasonable. I have hear of a small firm paying $75 per hour ($156,000 per year) for people proficient in Lacerte. However, that is an exception! The bottom line is that the pay for public accountant work, especially in small towns, is very poor.

    H & R Block pays very, very poorly! However, their tax training for individual taxation is very good.

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